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jb4 left a bad taste in my mouth from f10 chasis. I know it was very popular, but i had an AA piggy, andd everytime i ran into a jb4 m5, they lost. And then a buddy of mine actually popped a brand new motor in his f10. So, meh. I think for someone who wants to plug n play, (while having ZERO interest in alternate fueling, or even caring how anything else works) RC is for them. (me) |
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On the JB4 you can always just install the two MAP connections, skip CANbus, skip EWG, and have the same sub-par performance as RC offers but with actual resale value down the road and the ability to add more power and control later when you're ready for it. Another option is the BMS F90 Stage1 which is a $450 version of JB4 with no CANbus and no EWG. It's not an accident there are JB4 tuned F90 M5s knocking on 9 second quarter miles but the nice thing about JB4 is you can run as mild or wild as you want and the app even lets you check for any hidden fault codes before going in for service, something you'd never know unless you read codes with a special BMW tool. |
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I've used the RC on 2 other cars with very good results. Atleast for what I was looking for. I don't have any personal experience with JB stuff, but I didn't want to hook up those extra cables they have with their kit as I thought it looked quite hokey, but just me. plenty of people out there are fans
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The power gain potential between the 2 is near identical when the JB's installed in its most basic of configurations—their installation requirements for this mode are identical. When you give it control over the electronic wastegates and allow it to read additional metrics through OBD II, the gains jump substantially. But that's has been stated in this and other recent threads repeatedly—there's also tons of performance data from both the track and the dyno to attest to it. Why are you ignoring that? The advanced JB4 setup is definitely more complex to install. The OBD II hookup in my car is absolutely invisible unless you're on your hands and knees with a flashlight crawling around my footwell so I'm confused by what you mean here. |
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I love it when the "tastes great" vs "less filling" comes out.
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Agreed, I simply mean that the JB4 is a more complex setup, and sure it would likely do more than a RC unit due to that aspect. Just not something I would want to do , but to each his own. all good w/me |
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It doesn't have to be more complex setup though that is the point. Just don't connect the things that you don't want to bother with. For similar money you retain the option to add those later if bored or need them, and the JB4 itself is going to have a lot more resale value down the road than RC.
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Point taken but for those of us that bought a $130K supercar, I’m not sure we give a shit about $500 JB4 resale bro. |
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Note, though, that the JB4 is not bound to a particular car which I think the RC is (or some number of cars)—perhaps I'm wrong on that? Either way, this is perhaps the 5th S63-variant M-car this JB4 has been on... that's kinda handy. |
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Most people get the JB4 because they want the absolute best and most highly developed piggyback tuning solution for their F90 regardless of cost. For many though cost is a factor and as the JB4 is a little more it matters to them that they'll get all of that extra and then some back down the road when they resell.
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