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      01-24-2022, 05:11 PM   #23
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The guys who have both M5 and S63 should not need to worry about the cost of repairs. They probably even have 3rd and 4th cars to drive if they break the first two.
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The guys who have both M5 and S63 should not need to worry about the cost of repairs. They probably even have 3rd and 4th cars to drive if they break the first two.
He's talking about the s63 BMW motor, not the S63 AMG… the kook a few posts back threw the AMG pic up to be a silly.
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So no one else has anything to say?
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Dude the version you're gonna get with the x6m is going to be the most reliable version. It's like v4 or some shit. The problems with the older versions are resolved and don't apply here.

Why don't you lease the car to begin with and if you don't like it, return it, if you do like it then buy it out at lease end. Just a thought.
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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
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      01-25-2022, 08:03 AM   #28
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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
Post pretentious and "bmw" dick comment I've read while on this form.

I'm looking for responses that it's reliable or not. Pretty simple.
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      01-25-2022, 08:15 AM   #29
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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
I did my own research before I decided to order an M5. Your post here may be just a part of your research. I also checked for problems on the F10 forum since it is the same engine that has just been improved on over the years. I did not find any systemic issues that do not appear to have been corrected. All man made products will have some number of defects. Also what is the history of the car. Has the car been modified, abused, maintained, etc.?

I would also check other forums/ websites.
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      01-25-2022, 08:27 AM   #30
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I'm looking to get an x6m … I know this is the m5 platform. However, same engine.

I'm worried about getting into the car because they seem to be unreliable and grenading issues.

I want to buy the car I would plan to buy the x6m but now I'm Leary… any advise
Trying to understand what you want from us. This whole thread went like this:

You: I want an X6M with S63 engine, scared it may be unreliable, what do you guys think?

Us: Very reliable, owned many sub-versions across many platforms.

You: No, they're unreliable.

Us: Please provide some examples/links of stock motors blowing.

You: They're out there, Google them.

Us: Good talk. Glad you asked us since you have already made up your mind they are unreliable.

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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
Post pretentious and "bmw" dick comment I've read while on this form.

I'm looking for responses that it's reliable or not. Pretty simple.
no, he nailed it.
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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
Post pretentious and "bmw" dick comment I've read while on this form.

I'm looking for responses that it's reliable or not. Pretty simple.
The problem is "reliable" is a relative term. Is it a Honda 4 cylinder? No. It's not going to be worth keeping running for 300k miles. Will it get you to 40, maybe 50k without any real headaches. Very likely. Could it grenade itself and need replacing before 30k? Yes, but highly unlikely. Exceptionally rare.

It's a high-strung turbo V8, so take that for what you will, but realize it's been refined since the original S63, which was arguably quite unreliable. Among other modern performance-tuned V8s on the market, I'd argue it's one of the more reliable now days. Ymmv.
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I've had the V8 in my previous car (not sure if it was the S63 though), an F85 X5M, and drove it until 95.000 km without any engine issue.

I had to add 1 liter of oil between two services, otherwise everything was fine.

My M5 is slowly reaching 50.000 km and 4 years, and I never had to add oil, neither encountered any engine related issue.
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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
Post pretentious and "bmw" dick comment I've read while on this form.

I'm looking for responses that it's reliable or not. Pretty simple.
no, he nailed it.
Suck my dick
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How old are you? You still a teenager or something? Wow.

I was going to chime in and give you my 2 cents, having owned numerous BMW's, and numerous people in my family with them, including the S63. Now, I don't care to help you.

Sounds like this is the wrong car for you. I personally, after reading your comments and your confirmation bias, hope you don't get the car.
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The guys who have both M5 and S63 should not need to worry about the cost of repairs. They probably even have 3rd and 4th cars to drive if they break the first two.
LMAO!!!!!


Sorry though, because one own a couple high end cars does not mean that 'price of repair' is no option.

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He's talking about the s63 BMW motor, not the S63 AMG… the kook a few posts back threw the AMG pic up to be a silly.
And it was dam funny too.

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This tread is getting tense.....



37,000 miles on my S63, so far no major issues. Had to replace one coil pack last year. Warranty is your friend so DON"T tune your car....

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So no one else has anything to say?
You came here with preconceived notions regarding S63 reliability issues, and didn't want to hear what members on the forum with first hand experience are telling you. If your sole purpose in posting was uncovering myriad S63 engine failures among our members cars, you've failed to do so.

Maybe it's time for you to move on.
Post pretentious and "bmw" dick comment I've read while on this form.

I'm looking for responses that it's reliable or not. Pretty simple.
no, he nailed it.
Suck my dick
I'll respond with what you're used to hearing from others - I'm not your mom…

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I've had my 2019 M5 for over 3 years and have had no problems at all.
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I know this article is related to the N63, but it is a good read:

https://bmwtuning.co/bmw-n63-vs-n63t...tu2-vs-n63tu3/
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I've had my 2019 M5 for over 3 years and have had no problems at all.
2018 M5 for four years, with heavy wide open throttle use. Two check engine lights that didn't even put the car into limp mode, dealer fixed under warranty. Minor annoyances.

Traded it for 2022 M5 CS. No problems.

I read all this garbage years ago. The engine is nearly bulletproof at stock tune if you don't mess with it. Good fuel, good oil, all good.

Tune it, mess with it, eh, you can have some problems.

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