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      09-07-2021, 10:18 PM   #1
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My M5C LCI is fast, comfortable, versatile, and bad ass….but as much as I love it…it has a nasty habit…

It bites …and it bites frighteningly hard…

It's limits are so high, and it takes so much speed to shake it loose in 4WD SPORT, but when you do…it is violent….

Undoubtedly it's the combination of the high speed that it takes to shake the car loose with the heavy weight of the car…

I think what I'm complaining about is that it doesn't appear to be that progressive. It's either stuck like glue or it suddenly is about to hurt you….No warning… no mercy…

Anyone else agree?
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I imagine it is similar to what owning a Lion would be like.

If you F*** with it, it will F*** you up.

But it's incredible how much power this thing puts down, right?
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      09-08-2021, 02:10 AM   #3
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Isn't this the reason why there's the full 4WD mode???
Leave the 4WD Sport for the track where there's decent run off areas and not a curb then a ditch.
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      09-08-2021, 06:45 AM   #4
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You're complaining about physics, not the car
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Imagine what a Dodge Demon owner feels like when they hit the throttle, the car spins tires while stationary and then mysteriously teleports upside-down into a ditch. 😆
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Imagine what a Dodge Demon owner feels like when they hit the throttle, the car spins tires while stationary and then mysteriously teleports upside-down into a ditch. 😆
Actually laughed out loud at this, those things are wild.
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Actually laughed out loud at this, those things are wild.
“Hold my beer”

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      09-08-2021, 02:29 PM   #8
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“Hold my beer”

-Mustang owners
You are right about the owners, not the car. The newer mustangs (with independent rear suspension) are actually quite progressive when they lose traction. Quite an easy car to drive at the limits

The E63 is also very progressive when it breaks loose, unlike the M5. Having had both at the same time, I will say the E is easier to drive at the limits than the M
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You are right about the owners, not the car. The newer mustangs (with independent rear suspension) are actually quite progressive when they lose traction. Quite an easy car to drive at the limits

The E63 is also very progressive when it breaks loose, unlike the M5. Having had both at the same time, I will say the E is easier to drive at the limits than the M
Well, I was going to quote “Mustang crowd”, but there’s a whole other facet to the story there. Mustangs. And crowds. Lol
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      09-08-2021, 04:15 PM   #10
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As someone that's driven a lot of Quattro Audi's over the years and is used to how the traditional rear-biased Quattro AWD setup degrades at the limit, I find that keeping the car in 4WD w/ traction control fully disabled degrades more gracefully and as you'd expect from an AWD setup (understeer up to the limit followed by oversteer easily controlled by lifting on the throttle) than 4WD Sport does, it's what I have my M2 button set to and I find myself driving in that mode more and more.

Can play around with them in a big empty parking lot just ripping the wheel to the left from a stop under part throttle (no need for serious speed) to get a feel for how each mode transitions to oversteer. RWD is just a tire shredding hoonigan but it's fun none the less.
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      09-08-2021, 09:49 PM   #11
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I will try that…I'm a little surprised how unprogressive the car is….

All of my Jags were much more progressive even if their limits were not as high.

The M5 is crazy capable, but just don't piss it off.
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