E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > All-Wheel-Drive (Xi / xDrive) Talk > Xdrive rough shifts (auto) Rolling diameter culprit?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-27-2017, 04:39 PM   #1
njvader
***** Scopophiliac
United_States
3
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: 2011 Vermilion Red e92
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (2)

Xdrive rough shifts (auto) Rolling diameter culprit?

Hi all,

So ive been running a staggered setup for about a year now on my 2011 e92 xdrive (F:225/40/18, 245/35/18 R)which yields a rolling diameter change of front to back of -1.352. More so lately, ive been feeling rough and very rough gear changes, especially at low speeds. Its almost like the car is slipping in and out of gears. My front tires are also a lot more worn, almost bald, when the rears look fresh. I understand that <1% is recommended for awd but could this be the issue? and is it possible that I may have permanently damaged something? I dont have another set of wheels to test on unfortunately
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2017, 11:13 AM   #2
bennye90
Private First Class
Canada
41
Rep
108
Posts

Drives: E90 328xi
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

I get rough shifts from 1-2 and 2-3 at slow speeds. It gets better as I drive longer. Read that it needs a transmission software update and others say its what BMW's do. But if it is an issue that has not happen before.. then it may be the >1% difference that is affecting your drivetrain (power through your transfer case to wheels). I'm no xdrive expert but that my opinion.

Doesnt hurt to go get it checked out
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2017, 06:25 PM   #3
njvader
***** Scopophiliac
United_States
3
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: 2011 Vermilion Red e92
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (2)

I'm 95% sure they did the update at my dealer before it went out of warranty. I'm replacing the wheels+tires with a set that's only .4 off. The only savior that I have is that I got the AA headers+tune which I believe changes shift points? So once that's installed i hope it's all good. My issue is sporadic and the driving length doesn't really matter. I need a ton of work for my car and now I'm debating if buying instead of leasing was a good idea after all :|
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2017, 01:58 AM   #4
Blueeyesredpanda
Major
Blueeyesredpanda's Avatar
Canada
401
Rep
1,425
Posts

Drives: E90 / F30
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Canada

iTrader: (-2)

TBH, i changed the transfer case oil at 70000km. It's much smoother.
__________________
3IM . Okada Plasma Direct . Euro Ram Intake . AA header (Pending) . PE . 2nd Cat Delete . F30 340mm 6 pot . EBC Yellow Stuff . StopTech SS Brake Line . BMW Performance CF Strut Bar. 219M . PSS
Appreciate 1
      07-29-2017, 09:29 PM   #5
CanadianTSi
Captain
CanadianTSi's Avatar
Canada
207
Rep
602
Posts

Drives: 2014 535 xDrive Diesel
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alberta

iTrader: (0)

Rolling diameter variance is harder on the transfer case then the transmission. I would do fresh fluid and a new pan/filter on the tranny.
Appreciate 1
      07-31-2017, 11:10 PM   #6
njvader
***** Scopophiliac
United_States
3
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: 2011 Vermilion Red e92
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueeyesredpanda View Post
TBH, i changed the transfer case oil at 70000km. It's much smoother.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianTSi View Post
Rolling diameter variance is harder on the transfer case then the transmission. I would do fresh fluid and a new pan/filter on the tranny.
The xdrive flush kit is $51 on ECS, im going to have to start there along with the other mods already purchased, wheels/tires w/diameter within spec and will update
Appreciate 0
      08-01-2017, 07:46 AM   #7
xthejuicex
Private First Class
United_States
33
Rep
102
Posts

Drives: E90 335xi LCI
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Syracuse NY

iTrader: (1)

I was chasing down a vibration between shifts (manual) and it turned out that the rolling diameter difference was the culprit. I had 235F 265R and when I experienced this issue and when I switched back to 235F 275R, the issue went away.

Time for new rubber.
Appreciate 0
      08-08-2017, 07:27 AM   #8
Antetokounmpo
Brigadier General
Antetokounmpo's Avatar
United_States
1552
Rep
3,475
Posts

Drives: E90 6MT FBO; '18 F150 Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: WI

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by xthejuicex View Post
I was chasing down a vibration between shifts (manual) and it turned out that the rolling diameter difference was the culprit. I had 235F 265R and when I experienced this issue and when I switched back to 235F 275R, the issue went away.

Time for new rubber.
Same here
__________________

2008 335xi 6MT | VRSF Catless DP | VRSF 7" FMIC | VRSF CP | TIAL BOV | DCI | MHD 2+
BC Racing BR | Stoptech 600 | Firehawk Indy 500 255 Square | Atric Altimax 225 Sq.
2018 F-150 Platinum 701A | FX4 | 3.5 EcoBeast
Appreciate 0
      08-08-2017, 07:58 PM   #9
njvader
***** Scopophiliac
United_States
3
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: 2011 Vermilion Red e92
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (2)

Interesting...well, wheels and tires will be here sometime next week, so if that solves ill be more than happy. Im also doing the flush cause it looks easy/cheap.

I also have a very noticeable limp ? when im rolling at slow speeds like 10-30, its not every rotation so i dont think its tired related, overall the suspension ride has gone to shit Shocks and springs are getting done in 2 weeks so maybe the installers catch the issue (I hope) I need a good shop in NJ thats not gonna **pe me cause this car is costing me more to own than a new lease.... sad.jpeg
Appreciate 0
      09-16-2017, 08:26 PM   #10
jwebb335xi
Major
United_States
199
Rep
1,070
Posts

Drives: 2008 335 XI
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Chicago Burbs

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by njvader View Post
Interesting...well, wheels and tires will be here sometime next week, so if that solves ill be more than happy. Im also doing the flush cause it looks easy/cheap.

I also have a very noticeable limp ? when im rolling at slow speeds like 10-30, its not every rotation so i dont think its tired related, overall the suspension ride has gone to shit Shocks and springs are getting done in 2 weeks so maybe the installers catch the issue (I hope) I need a good shop in NJ thats not gonna **pe me cause this car is costing me more to own than a new lease.... sad.jpeg

Doesn't anyone go square anymore? I previously had 255/35/18 at all (4) corners and how have 245/40/18 summer wheels and tires at all (4) corners. NO rolling diameter difference issues.
__________________
JWebb335xi

MHD / Wedge / 93 Octane/ xHP / FMIC / Inlets / Catted DPs / CP / DVs
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:53 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST