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      10-17-2021, 10:46 AM   #23
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… you started it ya "idiot".
It's becoming a little bit childish, but here you go!

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Why did you need the aforementioned spray as well as the amazing body shop if your car's paint is so resistant to chips?

For the benefit of the community and the amazing body shop as well as the handy spray can of frozen paint, please illuminate us all as to their name/brand.
Think twice before writing

I got hit by a car, the dealer had to replace the front bumper, grills, front right wing...

After bringing my car to apply ceramic on the new painted elements, my detailer was really amazed of the high quality job my dealer has done.

In all honesty, you could never tell the difference between the newly painted elements and the other ones, as said earlier.
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… you started it ya "idiot".
It's becoming a little bit childish, but here you go!
Passive aggressive doesn't excuse you. This is a community of like-minded folks that share a common interest—I mistook you for one of them: my bad. You responded like a douche: your bad.
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Why did you need the aforementioned spray as well as the amazing body shop if your car's paint is so resistant to chips?

For the benefit of the community and the amazing body shop as well as the handy spray can of frozen paint, please illuminate us all as to their name/brand.
Think twice before writing

I got hit by a car, the dealer had to replace the front bumper, grills, front right wing...

After bringing my car to apply ceramic on the new painted elements, my detailer was really amazed of the high quality job my dealer has done.

In all honesty, you could never tell the difference between the newly painted elements and the other ones, as said earlier.
Sorry to hear about the accident.

However, repainting entire body panels isn't the discussion. This is about repairing chips and matching existing paintwork… these are 2 very different things when it comes to frozen paint.
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Sorry to hear about the accident.

However, repainting entire body panels isn't the discussion. This is about repairing chips and matching existing paintwork… these are 2 very different things when it comes to frozen paint.
It is the exact same thing...

My front bumper got fully resprayed, but the front hood was not damaged, so untouched.
You couldn't tell which of those 2 elements got resprayed.

If you have bad rock chips on a bumper, get it fully resprayed (Frozen paint or not) and if it's done properly you won't notice.
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It isn't that cut and dry I'm afraid. I did 24,000 miles in a Frozen Dark Silver M8 and unfortunately got numerous chips—some bad, some not. I ultimately tried 5 or 6 specialty body shops/auto-salons between WA state and FL and they all refused to take on the job regardless of price.

Can-am cites one experience as though it applies universally—I'm guessing it's an IQ deficiency or she's just a massive dickhead… both probably but I digress. Many folks on the forums cite the same experience and guidance that I have—dig a little and you'll find it.

While it is more convenient to believe you don't need it, if that turns out to be incorrect, there's no going back. Wrapping just the forward-facing parts in transparent PPF is a great compromise, though.

This time around, I went with a metallic factory color that I liked and wrapped it in Xpel Stealth achieving the frozen look and protecting the paint work for a little more than the cost of the original BMW Individual frozen color options.

Appreciate your insight on this. Will probably ultimately cave and do the entire car but I like to make myself sleep better at night because I have to spend another $7k hurts my soul. However, I'm buying this car and intend on keeping it for a very long time.
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Passive aggressive doesn't excuse you. This is a community of like-minded folks that share a common interest—I mistook you for one of them: my bad. You responded like a douche: your bad.
I won't jump into your trap, think whatever you want, it doesn't mean much to me.

Please, stop polluting the OP's great thread with childish stuff.
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Appreciate your insight on this. Will probably ultimately cave and do the entire car but I like to make myself sleep better at night because I have to spend another $7k hurts my soul. However, I'm buying this car and intend on keeping it for a very long time.
PPF might be a good option for you, then
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I won't jump into your trap, think whatever you want, it doesn't mean much to me.

Please, stop polluting the OP's great thread with childish stuff.
You can't help yourself can you--douche.
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Appreciate your insight on this. Will probably ultimately cave and do the entire car but I like to make myself sleep better at night because I have to spend another $7k hurts my soul. However, I'm buying this car and intend on keeping it for a very long time.
Yeah, I hear ya on the pain of spending yet more on the paintwork. I believe my current M8's wrap was $7,200 including ceramic coating inside and out.

For my first M8, the ~$7K wasn't even an option because I picked it up about a week before COVID began causing shops/stores to shutdown. By the time they were open again, the damage was done.

Is it too far down the build pipeline to change it (assuming you would even want to) to Bluestone Metallic and then do the wrap? I cannot tell the difference (other than the slight color difference) between my Frozen Dark Silver factory paint and the Xpel Stealth wrap on my factory Bluestone Metallic M8.
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You can't help yourself can you--douche.
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Yeah, I hear ya on the pain of spending yet more on the paintwork. I believe my current M8's wrap was $7,200 including ceramic coating inside and out.

For my first M8, the ~$7K wasn't even an option because I picked it up about a week before COVID began causing shops/stores to shutdown. By the time they were open again, the damage was done.

Is it too far down the build pipeline to change it (assuming you would even want to) to Bluestone Metallic and then do the wrap? I cannot tell the difference (other than the slight color difference) between my Frozen Dark Silver factory paint and the Xpel Stealth wrap on my factory Bluestone Metallic M8.
Can you explain what is the benefit of coating the paint just before covering it with PPF ?

No irony, real question.
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Can you explain what is the benefit of coating the paint just before covering it with PPF ?

No irony, real question.
That's the wrong way around--the ceramic coating goes on top of the wrap and creates a thin hydrophobic layer that causes water to simply bead up and roll naturally over then off of the surface. It makes washing the cars much simpler and even a quick hose down will restore the shine.
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That's the wrong way around--the ceramic coating goes on top of the wrap and creates a thin hydrophobic layer that causes water to simply bead up and roll naturally over then off of the surface. It makes washing the cars much simpler and even a quick hose down will restore the shine.

I believe my current M8's wrap was $7,200 including ceramic coating inside and out.

I misunderstood.

I thought that by inside and out, you meant under and over the film.

I know what are the benefits of a ceramic coating on paint (or PPF), having it on m car.
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I believe my current M8's wrap was $7,200 including ceramic coating inside and out.

I misunderstood.

I thought that by inside and out, you meant under and over the film.

I know what are the benefits of a ceramic coating on paint (or PPF), having it on m car.
Ah, I see--when I said "inside", I'm literally referring to the interior leather and various bits of the dash.
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Ah, I see--when I said "inside", I'm literally referring to the interior leather and various bits of the dash.
Makes sens now
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Ah, I see--when I said "inside", I'm literally referring to the interior leather and various bits of the dash.
Makes sens now
Whew! Glad you're talking again. Hate to see two of my favorite posters on the forums get all tangled up.
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Whew! Glad you're talking again. Hate to see two of my favorite posters on the forums get all tangled up.
Oh wow!

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I love every one of your posts (especially your road-trips)
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Yeah, I hear ya on the pain of spending yet more on the paintwork. I believe my current M8's wrap was $7,200 including ceramic coating inside and out.

For my first M8, the ~$7K wasn't even an option because I picked it up about a week before COVID began causing shops/stores to shutdown. By the time they were open again, the damage was done.

Is it too far down the build pipeline to change it (assuming you would even want to) to Bluestone Metallic and then do the wrap? I cannot tell the difference (other than the slight color difference) between my Frozen Dark Silver factory paint and the Xpel Stealth wrap on my factory Bluestone Metallic M8.

Yes, it's too late unfortunately so I am learning this the hard way as this is my first M car, but no regrets at all. If I have to wrap in PPF, then I have to do it. It is what it is. Not going to let it ruin my experience.
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Yeah, I hear ya on the pain of spending yet more on the paintwork. I believe my current M8's wrap was $7,200 including ceramic coating inside and out.

For my first M8, the ~$7K wasn't even an option because I picked it up about a week before COVID began causing shops/stores to shutdown. By the time they were open again, the damage was done.

Is it too far down the build pipeline to change it (assuming you would even want to) to Bluestone Metallic and then do the wrap? I cannot tell the difference (other than the slight color difference) between my Frozen Dark Silver factory paint and the Xpel Stealth wrap on my factory Bluestone Metallic M8.

Yes, it's too late unfortunately so I am learning this the hard way as this is my first M car, but no regrets at all. If I have to wrap in PPF, then I have to do it. It is what it is. Not going to let it ruin my experience.
Don't let my comments spoil it for you—not my intent. Rather, it was to learn from my experience and hopefully preserve the joy of perfection.
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Don't let my comments spoil it for you—not my intent. Rather, it was to learn from my experience and hopefully preserve the joy of perfection.


Not at all! Actually I was referring to the extra $7k ruining it for me 😂 . As I said previously, your insight was extremely helpful!
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This is a relief as I have my frozen bluestone metallic M5C on order. After reading this thread and many others, I felt like I was left with no choice but to wrap it the ENTIRE CAR in PPF for another $7k. I'll probably wrap it in the typical problem areas to reduce the cost. I've just heard so many horror stories about these paints and their inability to repair a ding or scratch.


dings have nothing to do with the paint (unless it's broken thru)

repoainting frozen is tough, for sure. I've done it, requires a certain skill level.
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