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That's a tough one as everyone interprets color a bit differently. Snapper Rocks looks the most green to me, Atlantis a bit less so, and Long Beach the most blue.
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04-04-2018, 02:48 PM | #47 |
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How are other owners only get mid to low 8sec 60-130mph? This thing should be in 7’s easily with that power.
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04-04-2018, 02:59 PM | #49 |
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Because it doesn't make that much power in reality, lol . Can make a dyno show anything you want . These dyno's are only useful for before and after mods on the same dyno same settings and looking at the nature of the cars power curve .
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Not to start another dyno discussion war, because that would end up costing billions of dollars and thousands of lives, but these dyno tests on dynojets are not accurate. I'm not saying Mustang dynos are accurate either but I think they are more in line with reality. When you have people dyno'ing over 900whp on an F10 M5 with Stage 2 turbos on dynojets, it is, to put it "respectfully," impossible for these engines to make that kind of power without some serious work (i.e. what AllMotor2000 was doing to his car). Especially without supporting 60-130 times to back it up. Others who have already measured the F90 M5 60-130 times can use that measurement to more accurately display how much a stock motor is making.
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04-04-2018, 03:14 PM | #52 | |
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That plus - this Shop produces very powerful cars on a regular basis and have the track proven experience of how to properly run a dyno. |
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04-04-2018, 03:20 PM | #53 | |
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I agree trap speeds and 60-130 times are the true test. That said - again - it makes zero sense for a Mods Shop to inflate the BEFORE dyno outcome when they are spending time and money to develop mods that will require a higher dyno number AFTER those mods are applied. Before you state - "they will simply show tune and exhaust bolt on builds at 900+ whp" - no, they will not as the performance won't back those claims up and they will lose hard fought reputation. And that said reputation is solid for producing the first AWD car in the 6's 1/4 mile. This isn't some small shop pushing unproven mods like others have. That plus - math always wins. 4400+ lb car with 127-129 MPH trap speeds? That is actually about right for a 625 whp pull. My C7Z dyno'd 580 whp and ran a 125 MPH trap at 3500 lbs. |
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04-04-2018, 03:22 PM | #54 | |
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My car isn't here for some time, but I will be personally testing this once I have it. |
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We can argue Dynos forever, but one thing is certain: This beast is making more than 600HP at the crank.
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04-04-2018, 04:09 PM | #57 | |
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In the end - it's math: power, weight, traction, Cd, and driver/transmission power delivery efficiency. My GTR does 60-130 in 2.65 seconds and 100-150 in about the same. It traps 173-180 MPH in the 1/4 - real world - because it makes enough of the combination of the above to do that - in the real world (meaning the actual power, weight, traction, drag and trans efficiency it really makes - not how it is advertised). If the F90 M5 truly traps 127-129 MPH - at 4400 lbs - 625 whp is a reasonable number to achieve that as - again - my C7Z was trapping 125ish at 3550 lbs with 580 whp. |
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Weight and trap speed at a sanctioned track rules when adjusted for DA. 60-130 means nothing to me because there are WAY TOO MANY VARIABLES. I understand it’s a net benchmark and respect that. But after watching a major BMW shop owner post up low 9’s on a stock F10......it lost me....... |
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if someone wants to make a TON of money, they should design a set of grills for this car that has thinner lips. such a fucking eye sore and I think the black grills make it more noticeable.
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I just dont see how this could be real. |
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04-05-2018, 12:38 PM | #65 | |
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Ummm looks like bmw went back to the e60 soft on the chassis this time around.. no more direct bolted rear subframe? Rubber bushing all over the rear subframe with no more stiffing plate?
Normal tunnel support like regular 5 series... Front supports aswell similiar to the the normal 5 series chassis.. Sad to see the backwards progression on some of the chassis setup... but i guess this car is more towards the highway GT cruiser crowd , and bmw is accepting that.. Really makes you appreciate the F8X series and the incredible chassis it has and what bmw did to it.. Quote:
BMW used alot more alum in the chassis to lower the weight in the G30.
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