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      10-20-2018, 12:08 PM   #23
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So I just had my 1200 mile service today! Before the service my sport display would never go above 560hp and 480tq.. today after the service I goosed it on the highway and and every time it would go beyond 600hp 520tq no problem! My butt dyno definitely also tells me there is something there too.. I video both before and after pulls on the highway and empty roads a number of times and I can definitely hear the engine revs climb at a faster rate than they did before the service! I had also checked the Density altitude of the weather before and after, and today actually had a higher DA by 400 so it should actually be making less horsepower today than before the service! First picture of the sport display is before service.....Second picture is from today right after the service
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So I just had my 1200 mile service today! Before the service my sport display would never go above 560hp and 480tq.. today after the service I goosed it on the highway and and every time it would go beyond 600hp 520tq no problem! My butt dyno definitely also tells me there is something there too.. I video both before and after pulls on the highway and empty roads a number of times and I can definitely hear the engine revs climb at a faster rate than they did before the service! I had also checked the Density altitude of the weather before and after, and today actually had a higher DA by 400 so it should actually be making less horsepower today than before the service!
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Here’s my invoice from the 1200 mile service
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      10-20-2018, 04:03 PM   #26
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While we don't have definitive proof on this, we do have before and after photos of the technology in motion gauges with different HP and TQ readings. I believe the preponderance of the evidence weighs in favor of getting a little more power after break in.
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While we don't have definitive proof on this, we do have before and after photos of the technology in motion gauges with different HP and TQ readings. I believe the preponderance of the evidence weighs in favor of getting a little more power after break in.
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While we don't have definitive proof on this, we do have before and after photos of the technology in motion gauges with different HP and TQ readings. I believe the preponderance of the evidence weighs in favor of getting a little more power after break in.
Agreed, definitely not as restricted as prior
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      10-28-2018, 09:11 AM   #28
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However, I did make a backup of all the ECU settings before the running in service, which I intend to repeat and compare, but I'm currently doing a European road trip, so it will have to wait until I'm back home.
As I stated before, I did a backup of the FA, SVT and all coding data (CAF files) before my running-in service a couple of weeks ago.

I have just got around to doing the same post running-in service and, other than the date of the dumps in the FA and SVT, all files are identical to the ones dumped before the running-in service.


Make from this what you want, but IMHO, it proves that nothing is "unlocked" at the running-in service.
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      10-29-2018, 02:07 AM   #29
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As I stated before, I did a backup of the FA, SVT and all coding data (CAF files) before my running-in service a couple of weeks ago.

I have just got around to doing the same post running-in service and, other than the date of the dumps in the FA and SVT, all files are identical to the ones dumped before the running-in service.


Make from this what you want, but IMHO, it proves that nothing is "unlocked" at the running-in service.
As we all know, it's pure placebo.
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      10-29-2018, 06:25 AM   #30
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As I stated before, I did a backup of the FA, SVT and all coding data (CAF files) before my running-in service a couple of weeks ago.

I have just got around to doing the same post running-in service and, other than the date of the dumps in the FA and SVT, all files are identical to the ones dumped before the running-in service.


Make from this what you want, but IMHO, it proves that nothing is "unlocked" at the running-in service.
As we all know, it's pure placebo.
Something has to be different if launch control does not work before service then it works after 1200 mile service. It can be deep in the code like it's always there but after first service = yes then allow launch control higher revs etc... My guess is it's always there just needs to = yes. At the touch of buttons you can adjust almost every aspect of the car that's all software driven and I am sure this is too Just my opinion. You would have to have a software expert analyze every line of code to know for sure!
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      10-29-2018, 09:03 AM   #31
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I felt zero difference before and after.

I also thought that that service doc suggested that Launch Control was available from the factory? I didn't test, but the doc posted here says that it is enabled.
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      10-31-2018, 11:41 AM   #32
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I definitely didn't expect anything especially after everyone else's experience, the service mgr literally said "we are removing the silencer and you should notice the improvements".
All I gave a shit about was the right g2 and g4 oils....

I'm in Manhattan so I go slow down the side streets and it's easy to control because the pedal usually seems heavy. This time I tapped the pedal seemed lighter and took off.
Who the F knows....
At the time of my service, I wasn't aware of this possibility, so I was not looking out for an increase in performance. Also tough to compare, because if you followed the brake in, as I "sort of did", I really never got on it to redline, etc, till post service.
What silencer are they referring to? At 3,500 miles now, I noticed the exhaust has been getting louder w/ more gurgling / cracking, but I attribute that to usage.
Why you have an M5 living in the city, do you drive out often? I had a M3 back in the day, but had an opposite commute to Westchester, so I would rip it up North every day. Also getaways on the weekend, which i'm assuming you must be doing.
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I felt zero difference before and after.

I also thought that that service doc suggested that Launch Control was available from the factory? I didn't test, but the doc posted here says that it is enabled.
I think that Launch Control is available at mile 0 on Competition and after service on the base model.
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I think that Launch Control is available at mile 0 on Competition and after service on the base model.
Available from Day 1 on both base and Comp.
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I definitely didn't expect anything especially after everyone else's experience, the service mgr literally said "we are removing the silencer and you should notice the improvements".
All I gave a shit about was the right g2 and g4 oils....

I'm in Manhattan so I go slow down the side streets and it's easy to control because the pedal usually seems heavy. This time I tapped the pedal seemed lighter and took off.
Who the F knows....
At the time of my service, I wasn't aware of this possibility, so I was not looking out for an increase in performance. Also tough to compare, because if you followed the brake in, as I "sort of did", I really never got on it to redline, etc, till post service.
What silencer are they referring to? At 3,500 miles now, I noticed the exhaust has been getting louder w/ more gurgling / cracking, but I attribute that to usage.
Why you have an M5 living in the city, do you drive out often? I had a M3 back in the day, but had an opposite commute to Westchester, so I would rip it up North every day. Also getaways on the weekend, which i'm assuming you must be doing.
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I definitely didn't expect anything especially after everyone else's experience, the service mgr literally said "we are removing the silencer and you should notice the improvements".
All I gave a shit about was the right g2 and g4 oils....

I'm in Manhattan so I go slow down the side streets and it's easy to control because the pedal usually seems heavy. This time I tapped the pedal seemed lighter and took off.
Who the F knows....
At the time of my service, I wasn't aware of this possibility, so I was not looking out for an increase in performance. Also tough to compare, because if you followed the brake in, as I "sort of did", I really never got on it to redline, etc, till post service.
What silencer are they referring to? At 3,500 miles now, I noticed the exhaust has been getting louder w/ more gurgling / cracking, but I attribute that to usage.
Why you have an M5 living in the city, do you drive out often? I had a M3 back in the day, but had an opposite commute to Westchester, so I would rip it up North every day. Also getaways on the weekend, which i'm assuming you must be doing.
I actually live in Brooklyn so I drive in daily and summers at the shore so I get plenty of drive time.
It almost seemed like pushing past 5k rpms was a uphill battle before service and after it was butter. The exhaust also is getting louder so yes that could be usage. Especially with cold start delete. All I know is the service advisor used the words "limiter" "run in mode" etc...
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I actually live in Brooklyn so I drive in daily and summers at the shore so I get plenty of drive time.
It almost seemed like pushing past 5k rpms was a uphill battle before service and after it was butter. The exhaust also is getting louder so yes that could be usage. Especially with cold start delete. All I know is the service advisor used the words "limiter" "run in mode" etc...
That's a tough commute though, all bad roads, but I hear ya on the shore. I rip mine out to the Hamptons all the time.
Strange on the 5k, but at least you are good now! What's your color? Not many in the city and I've only seen a white one so far and I think maybe a blue...
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I actually live in Brooklyn so I drive in daily and summers at the shore so I get plenty of drive time.
It almost seemed like pushing past 5k rpms was a uphill battle before service and after it was butter. The exhaust also is getting louder so yes that could be usage. Especially with cold start delete. All I know is the service advisor used the words "limiter" "run in mode" etc...
That's a tough commute though, all bad roads, but I hear ya on the shore. I rip mine out to the Hamptons all the time.
Strange on the 5k, but at least you are good now! What's your color? Not many in the city and I've only seen a white one so far and I think maybe a blue...
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I actually live in Brooklyn so I drive in daily and summers at the shore so I get plenty of drive time.
It almost seemed like pushing past 5k rpms was a uphill battle before service and after it was butter. The exhaust also is getting louder so yes that could be usage. Especially with cold start delete. All I know is the service advisor used the words "limiter" "run in mode" etc...
That's a tough commute though, all bad roads, but I hear ya on the shore. I rip mine out to the Hamptons all the time.
Strange on the 5k, but at least you are good now! What's your color? Not many in the city and I've only seen a white one so far and I think maybe a blue...
Yea some roads are rough, gotta pay attention.
I have the First Edition. I haven't seen any around, a lot of new 5's though
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Run in service both differentials oil change? Transmission to?

If you have an X-drive BMW, like the M5 F90 competition for exemple: at 1200 miles or 2000km, do you change the transmission fluid or only if it's a manual m car?
Also which differential fluid they charge on the run in service the rear axle or the rear axle or both rear and front axles during 1200 mil run in service?
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