[visualguy]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Definitely not a Re-Skinned F10.

The body structure is quite different, especially forward of the firewall, and it is not the same engine. It is a significant update of the S63 (TU4).

In what way is the update significant? What did they update?

[jai5w4]

Standard Options? Is the equipment referenced standard or optional?

This is a very poorly worded title.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by visualguy

In what way is the update significant? What did they update?

Details will be available after the official launch in Frankfurt. I will say the updates are significant enough to warrant skipping the TU3.

[225]

Originally Posted by mjr24

No, thanks.....

Not everyone wants full leather or competition package....that's 12k more alone. Couple this with the M550i pricing and stats....pretty sure lots of people will go to the M550i over the M5. You can add a ton of crap on no one wants and then say it's actually cheaper than the F10....but in reality, you are paying for options you do not want making it more expensive. What is the price difference in the UK between the M550 and the M5?

I think in the US they wanted $7k for competition package on the M6....which was, what, 15 lousy horsepower and uglier rims than were on the non-competition M6.

We in the UK don't get the 550i or m550d
Bmw know full well it would steel far too many m5 sales and frankly if I were in the market id go for an 550i anyway.

As mentioned I could then get the options I wanted on a near as damn it fast 5er and not be forced to buy a "good value" m5 because bmw included a load of options we are forced to buy as standard.


However..... I won't lie I REALLY want one! Just with someone else's cash.

[emulajavi]

Expect an equivalent of the 18% increase offered additionally to the discount they normally offer

[clbmw]

What's an "M550i" ...

The M5 price explains the no UK M550i, M550d and why Alpina D5 S is not getting the tri-turbo set up... (lightweight engine bullshit doesn't cut it as an excuse I'm afraid).

Well, being as fossil fuels are on their way out you'd have thought they'd want to sell as many of this gen as possible, but no. We don't even get a high performance tourer.

[Kr0m3assass1n]

Oh great that manifests as a 18% increase in used M5 prices too.


This just made my decision to go for the 550 in a few years' time.

[dmboone25]

I doubt people will pay an 18% uptick in the US...especially for an updated engine. They couldn't even be bothered to do something new or better...

[AlexLou1222]

If I buy one it would be taking delivery next Sep, don't know what the lease would look like 6 months after the model release, prob not pretty.

[johnm550]

Any news on European Delivery discount?

[JRobUSC]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I doubt people will pay an 18% uptick in the US...especially for an updated engine. They couldn't even be bothered to do something new or better...

Riiiiight, because they didn't do anything new or better with this new M5. It's the same exact car as before. 🙄

[doccyber]

I really miss the E39 M5.

[avex8]

Lol eat that 50% depreciation after 1 year.

[XMDOG]

Do they have black kidney grill option?

[michal12]

In Germany there is 13% increase in list price. Not a small bump either.

[georgere]

Why pple say it is the same engine as in M550i? Isn't m5 come with an M engine?

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

Riiiiight, because they didn't do anything new or better with this new M5. It's the same exact car as before. 🙄

That's not what I said.

My comment was specific to the engine, which to me is not representative of a best effort...as it is a revision. I am sure it is improved, but to not even bother with a different engine appears 1/2 hearted to me.

[michal12]

Originally Posted by cc3

BMW UK business model is mad

They discount some of their cars so heavily that you can get 8/10% off and some even as much as 20%. It is driving down second hand values and I expect there are others like me who now don't buy so frequently

Dealers have to shift volume as if they were Ford or GM. BMW seem happy to have shifted metal in exchange for selling more finance.

Within 12 months I expect you will be able to get £15k off list of this new M5 which is way over priced.

Does this affect PCP deals in the UK? High depreciation should kill the monthly rates.

[bimmermaus650]

Perhaps the cost is factoring in the "Brexit tax"?????

[Ragazzi-07]

North American pricing will be different.

though their maybe an increase i doubt it will be 18%

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Definitely not a Re-Skinned F10.

The body structure is quite different, especially forward of the firewall, and it is not the same engine. It is a significant update of the S63 (TU4).

The F90 is not a Re-Skinned F10, you are right. But it is definitely a Re-Engined F10 M5. No matter the technical updates, it's still the exact same setup with the exact same exhaust note with the exact same engine characteristics (i.e. redline).

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

The F90 is not a Re-Skinned F10, you are right. But it is definitely a Re-Engined F10 M5. No matter the technical updates, it's still the exact same setup with the exact same exhaust note with the exact same engine characteristics (i.e. redline).

What other reasonable options would have been more to your liking?