08-05-2020, 09:46 AM | #23 |
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I felt the same way you did when I bought the car. My RS7 just felt faster, I measured both and the M5 was a bit faster. Maybe it the way it accelerates? I will say this, now that I have a few thousand miles on it, it definitely feels faster when I purchased it and the numbers back it, I get that dropping feeling in my stomach when I launch.
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08-05-2020, 10:31 AM | #24 |
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jocko, to be clear, do you think its faster now that you have a few 1000 miles on it, or did it feel faster when it was new(er)? i can read it both ways as is, but wanted to clarify as it relates to your last sentence as well.
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08-05-2020, 03:55 PM | #25 |
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OP I definitely know what you mean. The M5 is incredibly fast but also very smooth and composed while the AMG is slower (by a small amount) it has a more aggressive feel to it with the shifts, exhaust and suspension which may have given you the impression that it felt faster.
Also the E63S refresh will be getting a comfort suspension that addresses complaints so if looking at one I'd wait out.
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Yeah, definitely something I might not have noticed when driving a new car. If that's the case, traction control doesn't feel as intrusive in this car, which is pretty awesome. Putting it in mdm should help. Hoping to see if that changes anything for next time. Thanks, its a really looker, gray with the red interior. I get a good amount of attention. Its really a stupid car/SUV, there's almost no point to it which is why I love it. Plus that exhaust.... I remember trying to explore the lease deals on a new e63 and just for fun, on a amg gt r. The sales guy never ran numbers that high Said nope to that real quick Quote:
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I looked into that also and I was pretty excited. The suspension is kinda jarring when you hit a pothole or cover on the road, livable, but it can be better. The m5 wins in that category, it took me all of 5 seconds to realize. I just prefer the lights of the pre-face lift. The grille I'm so so on. Everything has a panamericana girlle now. I wish I could just take the pros from the m5 and e63, put them together and mount it on the new rs6 body. |
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08-06-2020, 05:26 AM | #28 |
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It's been my experience with every car that I've ever owned, that they have a happy place and a sleepier place. This M5 is no different, but I've now adjusted to its particular characteristics, so now I know exactly how it's going to respond in any given situation.
I would say this ZF transmission in its most aggressive shift mode does a good job of very quickly finding its happy place, so that's a good starting point for anyone unfamiliar with the car. |
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Make sure you program the M button of choice (I use M2 for this, my hooligan settings) to D3 and all settings (motor, suspension and steering) to Sport Plus. Then try it again. Let us know how it went.
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08-06-2020, 07:46 PM | #32 |
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I only had the pleasure to drive it one day around Munich. I can relate to what you say. The first reaction of me (and my kids) was lukewarm... "is this what a 0-60 in 3s should feel like...hmmm? The M4C feels clearly more brutal and visceral!".
But later that day, my initial disppointment totally turned when I realised how this car renders everything so easy and obvious. It trashes everything on 4 wheels that is not a genuine super or hyper car. It did it at 300km/h on the German high road, it did it on the Bavarian local roads, it did it in every possible occasion. I full throttle accelerated out of a T-junction from standstill and it did it like a massive slingshot. While doing this, the steering feel and traject precision is just spot on! At 300 it feels planted in sweeping turns holding perfect in lane, while the M4C already becomes restless and somewhat balistic at 260. Since then, for me, the F90 is pure magic. |
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I also test drove and was so disappointed. It wasn't until after I bought it I learned that putting it in sport + for everything wasn't all it had. I had to put the transmission mode into 3 and that changed everything. Something I should have researched before going for a test drive. Would have eliminated a lot of confusion during the test drive period.
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I had the same lackluster experience on my first test drive. Wrong settings made it feel very similar to my 550 with JB4: fast, but not crazy fast.
The good news is- setting it up properly unleashes the beast.
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Later I hit the Alps and there the serpentine mountain roads felt like 2nd nature... How such a heavy limousine is capable to reap corner after corner with full confidence at incredible speed is still a mystery to me. I was afraid the first time in my live that I would not be fast enough to anticipate the relentless feed of sharp corners between the 120mph bursts, but the M5 didn't complain... it just yelled: MORE YOU LASY IDIOT! |
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The AMGs are very nice cars as well, would love to own a E63S or a GT63S in the not too distant future.
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Nonetheless, it's a pitty that you have to piggyback a racechip on the M5c to get the anticipated result. For such a glorious car, some cheap chip tuning should be never on your mind.
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I can certainly live without the racechip without being disappointed. But alas this is how BMW gets ya - I'm sure the M5 CS will be what I have now with the racechip. |
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Piggy back my a**, this car is so bloody fast out of the box. Nothing on four wheels could keep up in one year of ownership, and was even with a kawasaki ninja 1000 on multiple pulls. And that is a stock M5c.
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