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Looks like the 3 series is really down - this is BMW's bread and butter...
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Once again numbers are heavily inflated due to BMW forcing dealers to report cars sold as service loaners of demos. Over 35%-40%of reported sales are NOT to the end consumer. These numbers are total BS. They are focusing heavy on big markets LA, NY, Chicago, these dealers have more incentives in these markets than other dealers so buy your cars in these markets for the best deal. Chicago market BMW has getting beat handily by Lexus and Mercedes so they are spending extra incentive money in that market.
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06-01-2017, 10:37 PM | #49 |
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MSD's are less than 0.5% of all contracts at BMW Financial Services its such a small number. Residuals have been very similar for the last 3 years they haven't dropped them. MF will continue to rise for most luxury brands due to interest rates. Its either high residual and high MF or lower residual low MF.
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Let me ask you this, what would you like to see for sales per month of a car that costs $100K? What would define "success" in your mind? Ha! Just saw this. Funny. Have you driven both? Are you in the market niche for these cars? I suspect you are not. Because they appeal to two very different clientele.
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Honestly, what I think humbly is that we need more diesel cars here. Having just been to Europe I can't tell you how many variations of diesel cars there are. Great gas mileage and power. I would buy a more powerful 330d or 335d any day. |
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Well this post escalated and and escalated pretty fast!!!
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used market is flooded as well, believe it or not, a lot of people are buying used or just keeping their cars longer these days from what we have seen. we have seen slow sales on new cars for a while now, not just May.
MSD also are to some a factor however TBH not to many people really took advantage or used that practice. Its popular on the forums here but elsewhere not much
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Not a surprise, bmw products are now engineered for Chinese market. We've been telling you for so long what's wrong with your cars but you never listen. The kind of answers we get from the marketing department: the market want that bla bla bla. You provide cars the market don't want and them you expect customers to buy them because you put a
Bmw badge on It?? You failed and totally deserve it. This is what happen when you listen to your share holder but not your customers. I don't find value in the new BMW products but the prices still raising. |
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Make more M2s. Less i Series.
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I 'm ready to help. BMW please let me order my M3.
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That's what happens when you change your whole image and formula for making cars. E to F chassis was an abortion.
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And I have to wonder who is calling the ancient and boring X3 a better vehicle than the cheaper Q5. Sounds like fake news to me. You sound like a blind fanboy. Are you on the BMW payroll by any chance? |
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I will say that when my gf was shopping for a small luxury SUV, she wasn't really impressed with the X3. She actually preferred the X1, although she didn't end up buying a BMW.
She went with the Audi Q3, which isn't the same sort of performer that the X1 is, but had WAY more amenities and features, and for less money out the door.
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I propose an alternate strategy: Make good cars again.
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I think what everyone may be missing, is that this appears to be counting units sold, not profit or average selling price. Has the cost per vehicle decreased? Stayed the same? Are they charging more per vehicle?
Basic economics proves that he who sells the most units, doesn't necessarily reap the largest profits. Perhaps this is BMW's new game plan. Less quantity, but capture more profit per unit sold. |
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