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      08-09-2018, 08:23 AM   #23
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Lot of BMW Kool-Aid has been consumed out there.

Pretty clear the launch was botched. But not being able to close the gap..gap looks like it widened as the run progressed. That seems like a fail.

Maybe they should do it like 3 times...maybe switch up drivers. I mean really, it can't be true. The M5 is the superior Saloon Car. Right?
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OMG...who cares? The car is faster than shit....and I personally never plan to take it out to a closed track or strip to race against other similar cars. In real world, every day driving (which is exactly what I bought this car for), there will never be controlled races like this on the road. Whoever gets the jump between lights when the other is probably not even racing, or gets on it sooner in a small empty stretch of road will be able to smirk and say "my wiener is bigger".


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https://rennlist.com/articles/porsch...n-series-tire/

Just the messenger here...passing along.

You’re showing this from a Porsche enthusiasts forum website. Much different than coming from Car and Driver or Motor Trend, where the cars would be more likely treated and reviewed equally. That being said, The results are skewed. And at $100,000 more, figure they might be needing to do a better job creating propoganda than this shit.
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      08-10-2018, 07:59 AM   #26
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You guys are too easy. Once you all get over your bruised egos, you'll notice the tech. The E-Hybrid engine is coming to your M5. It can't own the saloon category without.
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      08-10-2018, 08:21 AM   #27
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Yup, hybrid will be the next step for performance car manufacturers. However, from an aftermarket point of view, what can you change to go faster? I hope to buy the last of the 100% petrol cars and modify the hell out of it.
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      08-10-2018, 08:28 AM   #28
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You guys are too easy. Once you all get over your bruised egos, you'll notice the tech. The E-Hybrid engine is coming to your M5. It can't own the saloon category without.
I can’t wait for the M5 to gain the pig weight of the high tech Panny. +5200lbs.....,.0hhhhhhh baby. Sooooo sexy techie....come to daddy
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      08-10-2018, 08:31 AM   #29
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M5 kills it in the real world with a real driver.

I’d rather buy a Tesla than a Panny hybrid piggy.
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ically-capable

Well known Porsche lover C&D isn't overly impressed with the new flagship super saloon. 4 mph and .2s slower through the 1/4 than the F90. Must be the morbidly obese 5300+ lbs.
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      08-27-2018, 04:26 PM   #32
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More records by the Hybrid Panamera.

https://rennlist.com/articles/paname...oks-six-times/
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      08-27-2018, 08:58 PM   #33
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More records by the Hybrid Panamera.

https://rennlist.com/articles/paname...oks-six-times/
Not on this track though.
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      08-30-2018, 11:03 PM   #34
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More records by the Hybrid Panamera.

https://rennlist.com/articles/paname...oks-six-times/
Sigh...just looking at your sig - F10 M550 and Porsche 991.1 - and it seems there may just be a teensy tiny amount of bias coming from you in regards to the Porsche. The slips Onfire put up are from an actual owner in the wild. The MPH is 126 - if this had been a tune - you would see at least 128-130 MPH. That owner is running 11.0's and 10.9's.

I am going tomorrow is pretty poopy DA - 3000 ft or so - and with the Pirelli's - but I am focusing on the MPH. If I am 126 MPH plus - it's just a bunch of RWD fun and I will have the PS4's on the car and it will put down the ET with a properly launched 60'.

We shall see.
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Even the Rive Burner has the M5 Competition Packs number. Sad.

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Even the Rive Burner has the M5 Competition Packs number. Sad.

Don't be a troll....
Your anemic .1 c4s would get roasted by any of these cars
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      02-16-2019, 11:19 PM   #37
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Even the Rive Burner has the M5 Competition Packs number. Sad.

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Don't be a troll....
Your anemic .1 c4s would get roasted by any of these cars
Another silly post from "Phefner"...

Tuned versus stock - which is silly. I have a more complete post about this in the other thread on it. I have run 10.93 on the poopy pirelli's with a 1.7x 60' at 129.5 MPH. I would say that is pretty healthy for stock. And a very large car.
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      02-17-2019, 12:50 AM   #39
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Yeah we all loved that race... LOL.

It's pretty clear that E63s and M5 are close enough that conditions/tires/driver/specific car/etc can swing the race one way or another... maybe M5 has ever so slight edge.

You shouldnt choose one or the other based solely on 1/4 mile time that's for sure.
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      02-17-2019, 11:39 AM   #40
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Yeah we all loved that race... LOL.

It's pretty clear that E63s and M5 are close enough that conditions/tires/driver/specific car/etc can swing the race one way or another... maybe M5 has ever so slight edge.

You shouldnt choose one or the other based solely on 1/4 mile time that's for sure.
Very much agreed on the purchase criteria--the result of this race could literally change hour-to-hour.

It's a shame this wasn't the Comp package since it's not quite an apple-to-apples in a best foot forward kind of way without it.

I find the Porsche's relative slowness bewildering--all that gasoline power supplemented by electrification which is proving so successful on other brands for gap-filling during shifts and providing instantaneous grunt when launching... what happened Porsche?
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      02-17-2019, 09:28 PM   #41
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Modding changes the game everyone...

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/t...ws-132243.html
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Another good one...

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Damn. Looked liked the M5 actually barfed on one of the launches.
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Damn. Looked liked the M5 actually barfed on one of the launches.
Sigh. My Mum could've launched the M5 better than the noob in the driver's seat. Perhaps they had it in rwd drive mode because beyond a monumental lack of talent, that's the only plausible explanation (unless it was actually broken).
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