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      12-03-2018, 01:05 PM   #617
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oh boy...is there a similar forum for the e 63s somewhere?
Yeah there is but if you thought the M5 comp lease deals are bad wait until you see the residual and MF on an E63s
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      12-03-2018, 01:05 PM   #618
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oh boy...is there a similar forum for the e 63s somewhere?
Sure but you may not like what you see:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-deals-11.html

Residual is a little higher but MF on AMG vehicles stinks.
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      12-03-2018, 01:39 PM   #619
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Residual seems to have dropped even more to 50%/10k from 51.

Unbelievable! So, if you have recently been quoted a price with the old residual, do you know if BMW will still honor that quote or am I stuck with the new lower residual?
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Unbelievable! So, if you have recently been quoted a price with the old residual, do you know if BMW will still honor that quote or am I stuck with the new lower residual?
Only if you submitted and application for the lease then with BMW FS. That locks rates for 60 days.
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Only if you submitted and application for the lease then with BMW FS. That locks rates for 60 days.
I did...thank god
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Sure but you may not like what you see:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-deals-11.html

Residual is a little higher but MF on AMG vehicles stinks.
Thanks!
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      12-03-2018, 11:33 PM   #623
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Hey guys, I just have a quick question.

I don't have an m5 but I am considering upgrading my 535i to an m5 in 2020.

So far I've only considered financing because I assumed with leasing you can't add aftermarket parts.

BUT, with all the comments here, it's making me reconsider:

So can you lease an m5 and still put on an exhaust? If so, what do you do when the lease is over?
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      12-03-2018, 11:59 PM   #624
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Hey guys, I just have a quick question.

I don't have an m5 but I am considering upgrading my 535i to an m5 in 2020.

So far I've only considered financing because I assumed with leasing you can't add aftermarket parts.

BUT, with all the comments here, it's making me reconsider:

So can you lease an m5 and still put on an exhaust? If so, what do you do when the lease is over?
Put the stock exhaust back on then sell the aftermarket exhaust.
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Hey guys, I just have a quick question.

I don't have an m5 but I am considering upgrading my 535i to an m5 in 2020.

So far I've only considered financing because I assumed with leasing you can't add aftermarket parts.

BUT, with all the comments here, it's making me reconsider:

So can you lease an m5 and still put on an exhaust? If so, what do you do when the lease is over?
Put the stock exhaust back on then sell the aftermarket exhaust.
Keep in mind, the stock exhaust is one single piece, so it is huge. Unless you have it cut, but then you will need to have it welded back together to reinstall.

I won a Borla full exhaust for my F10 M5, but ended up selling it because of this exact reason.
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Sure but you may not like what you see:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-deals-11.html

Residual is a little higher but MF on AMG vehicles stinks.
YES! I was quoted a MF of .00362 on a 2019 CLS53. That is absolute thievery!!!
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Sure but you may not like what you see:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-deals-11.html

Residual is a little higher but MF on AMG vehicles stinks.
YES! I was quoted a MF of .00362 on a 2019 CLS53. That is absolute thievery!!!
Bahahaha - that is like 8.7% interest rate.
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Bahahaha - that is like 8.7% interest rate.
Yes...I think I laughed at the MB sales associate when he told me those figures as well. I'm top tier credit...and getting .00182 from BMWNA on my upcoming M5 lease. MB has lost their mind!
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Bahahaha - that is like 8.7% interest rate.
Yes...I think I laughed at the MB sales associate when he told me those figures as well. I'm top tier credit...and getting .00182 from BMWNA on my upcoming M5 lease. MB has lost their mind!
MB has the standard MF that they charge on all AMG vehicles and the "supported" one that most non AMG cars get that is usually much lower but also fluctuates based on model. For example for the 2019 E class currently MF is like 0.00136 for the e300 but 0.00199 for the e450. The e53 though is 0.00237. Unlike BMW they use MF to incentivize leases of specific models.

In your case the dealer wanted to incentivize laughter.
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Sure but you may not like what you see:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-deals-11.html

Residual is a little higher but MF on AMG vehicles stinks.
Holy smokes. Glad I got my '18 M5 in September...
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MB has the standard MF that they charge on all AMG vehicles and the "supported" one that most non AMG cars get that is usually much lower but also fluctuates based on model. For example for the 2019 E class currently MF is like 0.00136 for the e300 but 0.00199 for the e450. The e53 though is 0.00237. Unlike BMW they use MF to incentivize leases of specific models.

In your case the dealer wanted to incentivize laughter.
MB standard MF is nearing Porsche territory but Tier 1 is .0028. Anything over is simple dealer markup and should be negotiated away.

That said, MB’s discounted MF on all bread and butter models is quite a bit lower than BMW’s. Most rates are below .001

While most people are shocked by a higher MF, residual has a much bigger impact on the lease costs. Currently, the E63s is 7% higher than the M5.

I would go for highest residual by choosing the lowest miles. It is easier to pay for miles before lease end or negotiate the costs when the dealer tries to get you into the next car.
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Wondering if anyone got any recent deals on an 18’ M5 noncomp or if there are deals out there worth checking out. Thanks in advance!
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Wondering if anyone got any recent deals on an 18’ M5 noncomp or if there are deals out there worth checking out. Thanks in advance!
I just bought, but still waiting for delivery, an 18. $117,xxx msrp, with rebates paid $101,000. 36/10 no cap cost reductions $1215 with tax out the door.
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I just bought, but still waiting for delivery, an 18. $117,xxx msrp, with rebates paid $101,000. 36/10 no cap cost reductions $1215 with tax out the door.

Down payment?
Dealership?
If you can reach out to me I would really appreciate it, my number is 3477127237
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I just bought, but still waiting for delivery, an 18. $117,xxx msrp, with rebates paid $101,000. 36/10 no cap cost reductions $1215 with tax out the door.
please pm with dealer and salesman...great deal!
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please pm with dealer and salesman...great deal!
Snapper- he has no more 18’s. Best bet is to find one of the 2-4 available nationwide and work direct with selling dealer. I got lucky and they are great dealer so far.
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I just bought, but still waiting for delivery, an 18. $117,xxx msrp, with rebates paid $101,000. 36/10 no cap cost reductions $1215 with tax out the door.
please pm with dealer and salesman...great deal!
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I just bought, but still waiting for delivery, an 18. $117,xxx msrp, with rebates paid $101,000. 36/10 no cap cost reductions $1215 with tax out the door.
please pm with dealer and salesman...great deal!
Try BMW Riverside in CA. They have 2 left, I particularly don't like the colors. But I think you maybe able to get close to 15 or 16k off....speak Vince.
There is one left at Crevier BMW. If you call them speak to Faraz he will hook you up.
There is also one left in Berkeley, CA (Weatherford BMW). If you call them speak to Jon Heppler.

Tell them all Kash sent you!
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Try BMW Riverside in CA. They have 2 left, I particularly don't like the colors. But I think you maybe able to get close to 15 or 16k off....speak Vince.
There is one left at Crevier BMW. If you call them speak to Faraz he will hook you up.
There is also one left in Berkeley, CA (Weatherford BMW). If you call them speak to Jon Heppler.

Tell them all Kash sent you!
thx so much for taking the time to put together all of this info!
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