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      03-31-2021, 07:42 PM   #1
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Experiences with Evolve - Considering Stage 2

Hi All,

Those of you that have used Evolve, please share your experience. As the title says I am.comsiderign stage 2 + lowering Springs and spacers.
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I have used them and certainly no issues and plan on going stage one with them in September. From the tuning point of view I think you will find that they are very well respected on this forum and that says a lot. I know a couple of the guys on here are running the stage one with no issues. Regarding the suspension, are you looking at the MSS setup. If so a lot here suggest other possible options. Hope this helps and have you thought about stage one first and see how you go. For an extra 50 bhp to me it seems like a lot of extra expense and then having to worry about reliability and warranty work. A stage one at least you can take it off quite quickly if needed. Enjoy whatever you decide!
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I have used them and certainly no issues and plan on going stage one with them in September. From the tuning point of view I think you will find that they are very well respected on this forum and that says a lot. I know a couple of the guys on here are running the stage one with no issues. Regarding the suspension, are you looking at the MSS setup. If so a lot here suggest other possible options. Hope this helps and have you thought about stage one first and see how you go. For an extra 50 bhp to me it seems like a lot of extra expense and then having to worry about reliability and warranty work. A stage one at least you can take it off quite quickly if needed. Enjoy whatever you decide!
Thanks for the response. I am glad there is positive feedback on Evolve.

I am looking at the mss setup for the suspension. My goals in order of importance
1) not to negatively impact ride quality (why I didn't buy a comp)
2) eliminate wheel gap
3) improve handling

Regarding Evolve stage 1 vs stage 2:
- I need to improve the sound of the car
- 50hp with no wirght gain is a pretty hefty increase

You make a good case for going stage 1 as warranty is a big concern for me. I thought you lose warranty with stage 1 as well.?
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Thanks for the response. I am glad there is positive feedback on Evolve.

I am looking at the mss setup for the suspension. My goals in order of importance
1) not to negatively impact ride quality (why I didn't buy a comp)
2) eliminate wheel gap
3) improve handling

Regarding Evolve stage 1 vs stage 2:
- I need to improve the sound of the car
- 50hp with no wirght gain is a pretty hefty increase

You make a good case for going stage 1 as warranty is a big concern for me. I thought you lose warranty with stage 1 as well.?
Cool and let me know how you find the MSS as its on my radar for the exact same reason but not until late September. Re warranty, stage one will invalidate, however what I meant was that at least you could remove it easily unlike stage two which is a load of other parts too. Keep us all posted on your build
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Cool and let me know how you find the MSS as its on my radar for the exact same reason but not until late September. Re warranty, stage one will invalidate, however what I meant was that at least you could remove it easily unlike stage two which is a load of other parts too. Keep us all posted on your build
Stage 2 is just Downpipes and tune.

I am deciding between MSS and H&R 550i springs. The drop looks perfect on the H&R
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      04-10-2021, 07:47 AM   #6
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Im stage one, been on couple of different dynos, vary from 719 to 738bhp, im not gonna go stage two for sake of another 20-30 bhp, feels fast now. I didnt bother lowering mine sits low stock.
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Im stage one, been on couple of different dynos, vary from 719 to 738bhp, im not gonna go stage two for sake of another 20-30 bhp, feels fast now. I didnt bother lowering mine sits low stock.
Great shot.

I am going for stage 2 vs stage 1 mostly for the sound benefit and then for the performance gain. I just wonder if down pipes will be enough for the sound.

It's more than 20 to 30hp with tune and Downpipes by the way. It is also a big jump in torque.

Stage 1 adds 70hp

Stage 2 adds 110hp & 150lb/ft on a stock vehicle... That is a huge difference in torque
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Am I reading this wrong as stage one looks to add to torque numbers too to around 725. I could be wrong but I was under the impression its not just bhp you gain from stage one. Looking at the chart that's what I seem to read from it:

https://www.evolveautomotive.com/pub...el_graph_1.jpg
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You make a good case for going stage 1 as warranty is a big concern for me. I thought you lose warranty with stage 1 as well.?
You will Loose your warranty with ANY ecu alterations.
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I think I have had a chat with you about this and love evolve. I have attached my most recent dragy results and numbers speak for themselves. I have been tuned for 25k miles. 12k eurocharged stage 1 and 13k evolve stage 2. Evolve has been a pleasure to work with and if u want more u can get custom tuning done as well and have utku noa help u out.
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I think I have had a chat with you about this and love evolve. I have attached my most recent dragy results and numbers speak for themselves. I have been tuned for 25k miles. 12k eurocharged stage 1 and 13k evolve stage 2. Evolve has been a pleasure to work with and if u want more u can get custom tuning done as well and have utku noa help u out.
This is good to hear as I plan on going stage one in early October!!
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I think I have had a chat with you about this and love evolve. I have attached my most recent dragy results and numbers speak for themselves. I have been tuned for 25k miles. 12k eurocharged stage 1 and 13k evolve stage 2. Evolve has been a pleasure to work with and if u want more u can get custom tuning done as well and have utku noa help u out.
Glad to hear it. She is going back Evolve as since the tune and Downpipes I am getting a worrying vibration at idle.
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my stage one Evolve runs 6.2 100-200 and 10.5 quarter mile so not far off figures of stage two, the 100-200 was uphill too. Dynoed on couple of independents (as their one not built yet) one ran 722bhp other 738bhp
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that was one of the runs on the stage one..
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Great figures for a stage 1. Is there any change in exhaust sound?
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Great figures for a stage 1. Is there any change in exhaust sound?
yes more burbles i asked for that to be kept, sounds better than stock and had PCW exhaust box and res mods so deeper
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yes more burbles i asked for that to be kept, sounds better than stock and had PCW exhaust box and res mods so deeper
Hi Lee, dont suppose you had a conversation with Paul regarding standard LCI cars ?. Just wondering what could be done with an LCI car, leaving OPFs in. I know pops and bangs are off the menu, unless mapped, but dont want to get into that at the minute .
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Hi Lee, dont suppose you had a conversation with Paul regarding standard LCI cars ?. Just wondering what could be done with an LCI car, leaving OPFs in. I know pops and bangs are off the menu, unless mapped, but dont want to get into that at the minute .
as far as i know they cant do the LCI yet, real pain isnt it, im glad i have a late 19, i would get another M5 but not being able to tune puts me off
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When I spoke to Imran at Evolve about more drama (pops/burbles/bangs), he said they could not do anything about that as its something that I wanted. He said there was a little extra anyway with their map with the extra boost I think he said (cant be sure). I will have to ask him again! I don't want to go crazy but a bit more deeper sound would be nice and burbles help. Not so fussed about the pops/bangs, but burbles yes please....
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When I spoke to Imran at Evolve about more drama (pops/burbles/bangs), he said they could not do anything about that as its something that I wanted. He said there was a little extra anyway with their map with the extra boost I think he said (cant be sure). I will have to ask him again! I don't want to go crazy but a bit more deeper sound would be nice and burbles help. Not so fussed about the pops/bangs, but burbles yes please....
my car had good noise stock, when evolve tuned it lost some sound, so got them to tweak map twice, and got the sounds louder and better than before now. they had to reload it on twice. it runs around 10.5 quarter mile on flat when using brothers draggy, but today managed a 10.6 on uphill run full tank. pretty decent for stock cats etc stage one.
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my car had good noise stock, when evolve tuned it lost some sound, so got them to tweak map twice, and got the sounds louder and better than before now. they had to reload it on twice. it runs around 10.5 quarter mile on flat when using brothers draggy, but today managed a 10.6 on uphill run full tank. pretty decent for stock cats etc stage one.
Would you have a 0 - 100 mph time Lee ?, for some reason im always more interested in this figure more than the 1/4 mile
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Would you have a 0 - 100 mph time Lee ?, for some reason im always more interested in this figure more than the 1/4 mile
ah no not tried that one, but when i try to get a best quart mile ill set up the 0-100 time too.
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