To tune or not?

j_obru · 08-17-2021, 10:39 AM

I just scooped up a 19 m5 comp with 30k miles. What are your thoughts on waiting till warranty is up or just saying f*ck it and doing it now? Also, what are the best tunes? New to BMW world, coming from Audi.

Billyboy · 08-17-2021, 11:15 AM

If you can afford paying up for a new engine if need be, go ahead and tune. If that gives you a stomach ache, leave it be and enjoy a real fast car as it is.

j_obru · 08-17-2021, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Billyboy

If you can afford paying up for a new engine if need be, go ahead and tune. If that gives you a stomach ache, leave it be and enjoy a real fast car as it is.

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

Ex_Stig · 08-17-2021, 11:48 AM

If you want the security of a warranty then I would suggest either Dinan or CarBahn.

Matt@AUTOcouture · 08-17-2021, 11:48 AM

We've run a lot of pre LCI's on DME Tuning's stage 1 and 2 flash tunes (whether or not it's got DP's). The cars haven't had any issues as the tunes are not aggressive, squeezing every ounce out of it. Most of the issues seen are when people start getting crazy with fuel mixtures beyond 93.

pbonsalb · 08-17-2021, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by j_obru

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

Noelle seems to be a joke. You can’t find any dyno or dragy or dragstrip testing like you can for Racechip, JB4, RK, Bootmod, DME, Evolve, etc.

FatRear08 · 08-17-2021, 12:34 PM

I’ve been running a DMETuning tune on mine for a year now. Previous to that, 3 years on their tunes with a built F80. Not a single problem. Reliable and they run some of the fastest cars around. For instance, I kicked the crap out of a new Lambo Huracan Performante from a 60 roll just last weekend, under controlled conditions of course.

m4h2o · 08-17-2021, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FatRear08

I’ve been running a DMETuning tune on mine for a year now. Previous to that, 3 years on their tunes with a built F80. Not a single problem. Reliable and they run some of the fastest cars around. For instance, I kicked the crap out of a new Lambo Huracan Performante from a 60 roll just last weekend, under controlled conditions of course.

Stage 1 or 2?
Also does one need catless downpipes for stage 2 or would highflow be good?

jackass · 08-17-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by j_obru

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

FatRear08 · 08-17-2021, 03:44 PM

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Stage 1 or 2?
Also does one need catless downpipes for stage 2 or would highflow be good?

I’m running Stage 2 and then some…
Call them for the downpipe question. They’re very friendly.

MNoob · 08-17-2021, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by j_obru

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Originally Posted by Billyboy

If you can afford paying up for a new engine if need be, go ahead and tune. If that gives you a stomach ache, leave it be and enjoy a real fast car as it is.

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

Maverik259 · 08-17-2021, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by j_obru

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Originally Posted by Billyboy

If you can afford paying up for a new engine if need be, go ahead and tune. If that gives you a stomach ache, leave it be and enjoy a real fast car as it is.

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

Suggest you look in the tuning section of the M5 forum. Lots of good reading on Noelle.

Danny D · 08-17-2021, 09:28 PM

Yay another Noelle Thread - let the party begin.

j_obru · 08-18-2021, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny D

Yay another Noelle Thread - let the party begin.

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Originally Posted by Danny D

Yay another Noelle Thread - let the party begin.

Sorry, new to the platform. Didn't see any threads on it.

Slugsy01 · 08-19-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverik259

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Originally Posted by j_obru

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Originally Posted by Billyboy

If you can afford paying up for a new engine if need be, go ahead and tune. If that gives you a stomach ache, leave it be and enjoy a real fast car as it is.

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

Suggest you look in the tuning section of the M5 forum. Lots of good reading on Noelle.

I second that!

northtorque · 08-19-2021, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by j_obru

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

Stay away imho. Quick internet search will bring up other great products by certain individuals - moon rocks for sale for instance. ??? Ya.
This has been beaten to death.
I’m now looking for a popcorn emoji but unfortunately can’t find one

Billyboy · 08-20-2021, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by j_obru

What are your thoughts on the Noelle Performance tune? They apparently will warranty the car until factory warranty is up.

They can talk the talk but will they walk the walk ...? Maybe. Or maybe it will be a blame game.

Thing is, with a tune run over long term, you are pushing and maybe surpassing the limits the car was supposed to be doing. Sure, if you are lucky and careful not to let it rip it too often, you'll be fine.

I'm planning on keeping my M5 for a long time, so I'd rather keep it as it is.

In the end it boils down to
- how much of a risk you're willing to take
- how much will you be using that extra HP and torque
- how long you plan to keep the car
- if s**t hits the fan, can you pay up

2indapink · 08-20-2021, 05:09 AM

I've heard that RaceChip is a pretty nice start to get that extra kick out of the F90. I've also heard that DME is a great way to say f*ck it & full send it safely. I haven't done either because I feel that the f90 already has so much power from factory that i ask myself, where am i trying to go? the moon? LOL 600hp 4.4 liter Twin Turbo v8 is as great as it gets imo.

TrevorM3 · 08-20-2021, 06:11 AM

start with racechip as 2indapink said. good compromise.

i can guarantee if anything goes wrong (motor related) after a flash you're eating shit. It doesn't matter who you know at the dealer anymore to try and get by.

pbonsalb · 08-20-2021, 06:38 AM

Or JB4. It’s more than a good compromise.

spuntyb · 08-20-2021, 06:42 AM

Put $$ aside for a new engine or at least a rebuild. Then go nuts.

Ask me how I know

Alberta · 08-20-2021, 06:53 AM

Even tough everyone is free to do whatever he wants to his car, I feel that 600hp is already a lot and the risk isn't worth it.

My 2cents.

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FatRear08 Major 1427 Rep 1,195 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: HHI iTrader: (0)	I’ve been running a DMETuning tune on mine for a year now. Previous to that, 3 years on their tunes with a built F80. Not a single problem. Reliable and they run some of the fastest cars around. For instance, I kicked the crap out of a new Lambo Huracan Performante from a 60 roll just last weekend, under controlled conditions of course.
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2indapink Private First Class 59 Rep 136 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: May 2020 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I've heard that RaceChip is a pretty nice start to get that extra kick out of the F90. I've also heard that DME is a great way to say f*ck it & full send it safely. I haven't done either because I feel that the f90 already has so much power from factory that i ask myself, where am i trying to go? the moon? LOL 600hp 4.4 liter Twin Turbo v8 is as great as it gets imo.
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TrevorM3 Banned 3322 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 6.3 AMG Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	start with racechip as 2indapink said. good compromise. i can guarantee if anything goes wrong (motor related) after a flash you're eating shit. It doesn't matter who you know at the dealer anymore to try and get by.
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Alberta Lieutenant Colonel 2035 Rep 1,843 Posts Drives: F90 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: somewhere iTrader: (0)	Even tough everyone is free to do whatever he wants to his car, I feel that 600hp is already a lot and the risk isn't worth it. My 2cents.
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