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      04-09-2018, 11:00 PM   #23
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      04-10-2018, 12:32 AM   #24
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Yep. What a roll reversal.
I have not had a chance to run in the car yet but I can feel the nuances of what was described. The good news is the car is seriously refined when cruising and very sharp when pushed (from a handeling point of view). Looks wise, people notice it and admire it.

The thing I wish could be improved is the engine tone not so much in volume but in voice. This is amazing from an everyday drive point of view where the E63 would just get old after a while but it would be nice bring the thunder when you occasionally want it. In that sense I wish this BMW would be able to be the typical M we want it to be.

Compared to the F10 though, it is big jump in everything. I know it was the right choice.
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not really. they literally drove on a road. and that was it. i don't think that was a proper "review".
I know! It's crazy they took a couple of 2 tonne road cars and drove them, er on the road!

Reviewing road cars on the road to find out which is the best road car....whatever next!
Agree. Ring taxi aside these cars won't see the track because anyone with the $$ to buy one has enough coin to acquire a proper track car.

On a side note, IMO this is another silly comparison because it's the "S"-version instead of the base AMG.
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Interesting.. never seen that before. Lol

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What a dull lifeless video. I couldn't make it 2 minutes into that snooze-fest.
No kidding! B o r i n g

Which the new M5 is NOT.
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these are not track cars nor will they be used as such no matter how well either company markets them... no one in their right mind wants to track 4200 lb 4 door luxury sedans
Its funny, because I see damn near two ton GTRs at the track all the time.
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Its funny, because I see damn near two ton GTRs at the track all the time.

Gtrs are about 3800
Camaro ZL1 1e is about 3800
Shelby 350 is about 3800


They are all still very heavy 😮
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these are not track cars nor will they be used as such no matter how well either company markets them... no one in their right mind wants to track 4200 lb 4 door luxury sedans
Its funny, because I see damn near two ton GTRs at the track all the time.
You mean you see a purpose built track car on a track? Well you got me...
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I think, fanboyism aside, whichever of the two you buy is a good buy.
I fully agree. Both cars are beasts. Get which one you want.
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