[Quampa]

Great video. Hands down these guys are some of best automotive journalists out there. Surprised that it's as fast as the GT3RS.

[lovemycar]

If you prefer an airliner to f16, you should never buy a M car!

[Pic18]

Originally Posted by 335dXdriver

They may have corners, can't handle them though

A) I was speaking specifically in reference to Mike Skinner, and the driver in your video was neither Mike Skinner or a NASCAR driver (despite the car)

B) Plenty of people have crashed at goodwood.

C) See below:

[vtknight]

[QUOTE=BCMgunner;24430495]

Originally Posted by paliknight

So the M5C would have easily beat the GT3RS. Interesting[/QUOTE

Just for perspective

The M4 GTS (the best production BMW ‘Ring time) ran a 7:27 around the ‘Ring.
The fastest 4 door car ran a 7:25.
The GT3RS 6:56.

No, 16 horsepower will not buy you half a minute on the Ring. I doubt 200 horsepower would.

The M5 is a brute for sure, but we don’t know the circumstances in which the RS time was set vs the M5.

I just don’t see the M4 GTS being that good. Every single independent review - from Chris Harris onwards to It losing to a 1LE Camaro on motortrend and they have never performed well - forget 7:27 at the Nürburgring level. I call nonsense to the unregulated NBR Times once again.

[vtknight]

Originally Posted by domino_z

everyone debating tenthes, and I'm here like who buys a 2 tonne sedan to track

^And this.

[A Need For Speed]

Originally Posted by domino_z

everyone debating tenthes, and I'm here like who buys a 2 tonne sedan to track

Ride to the track in luxury, kick some ass, go home in luxury. Makes sense to me.

[slavearm]

Originally Posted by vtknight

^And this.

Next weekend Chuckwalla. My 2 ton luxury barge is going to wrangle with some pavement.

[Big boi m5]

Originally Posted by 335dXdriver

This just annoys me. The reason that it's tied a GT3 RS is that this track is a power biased track. There's no corners that would really play into the hands of a track focused car, GT3 RS in this example.

600hp is faster than 500hp down multiple straights, shocker! Straight after straight.

I do think TGT should re time times set by 'The American'... times are not comparable...

Weight of the M5 is 4k lbs. that's a lot and it does slow it down but it's not like it will be slower in corners. If the weight doesn't transfer, which it doesn't on an M5, the only thing it means is that the M5 is gonna brake a little sooner. It can handle just as well because the weight gives traction.

The brake pads are really going to hate stopping 4K lbs from 160 mph in comparison to the Porsche though. Expensive track day for the M5. Slower? I'd say a little but it's not the turning ability, it handles great. It's all brake time.

The other factor here is M5 and the new bmw lineup in general is massive dimension wise. If you read interviews from the race car drivers they comment on how easy the M8/M6 are to drive properly compared to its rivals. They handle very well and the size makes them very easy to control at the limit. The AWD makes the 600 hp easy to control.

Porsche 911s are the opposite, very tough to tame due to the set up, and have 500 hp going to 2 wheels.

You're seeing the M5 best the 911 GT3 RS because an amateur gentlemen driver TV personality was playing around for a few hours with both. The M5 is extremely easy to master and the 911 is the opposite.

If you put Timo Bernhardt or a Porsche factory driver against Alexander Sims where both cars are driven perfectly by skilled drivers who drive the cars for a living the 911 will best the M5. Better power to weight ratio and 900 lbs less weight to slow down.

For mortal drivers at a for fu mn track day though I'd bet the M5 is much easier to drive a fast lap.

[Big boi m5]

Originally Posted by domino_z

everyone debating tenthes, and I'm here like who buys a 2 tonne sedan to track

Someone with enough money to buy a set of brake pads for the next day.

Jokes aside all the BMW M cars a fat piggies these days. M3 is 3700? Even the Porsche is 3100. Oink oink

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Hahahahaha hahaha

1-2 Seconds.

My ass.

MAYBE 0.3 - 0.4 seconds difference.

Like 16hp and some tweaks all of a sudden put in it front of the R8 V10+.

Laughable.

it was clearly exaggerated, can't we all have fun?