[Quickburn7]

Originally Posted by DallasLife345M

What’s your personal take on the M5 steering feel compared to other cars in your garage?

I think the steering feel is great for this type of car. I mean it's no 997 GT3 but it's pretty damn good. Leaps and bounds better than the E63s

[DallasLife345M]

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

I think the steering feel is great for this type of car. I mean it's no 997 GT3 but it's pretty damn good. Leaps and bounds better than the E63s

Good to hear

[goj]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

8 speed vs 9 speed.. and .. being actually able to put the ponies to the ground..

8 speed vs 9 speed? Not sure what you mean since the M5 has an 8 speed across the board.

I doubt conditions were so different to warrant a .5s difference and an issue with power to the ground

[slavearm]

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

I think the steering feel is great for this type of car. I mean it's no 997 GT3 but it's pretty damn good. Leaps and bounds better than the E63s

Totally agree, throw some track tires on and the steering feel becomes much more transparent.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by GUNGASLOW

How was the E63s station wagon soccer mom vehicle faster than the m5?

No Launch Control. Plus the 2wd stuff. Sad.

[BM dnobagaV]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I noted above and believe the fools used 2wd to test the F90.... great job R&T as you just re tested a slightly souped up F10 LOL (I jest a little)

But they noted they used 2WD.

Well, the f90 technically is a souped up f10. Very few differences overall.

Obviously, newer is better, but not as much as it could've been.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

Still think all these magazines are biased on who buys the most ad space.
I have driven most of the cars reviewed in this article and can tell you that no way the ZR1 is better than a GT2 RS.
The senna is great but only has one purpose as a track car. I had to take a Yoga class to even get in the driver seat. The mclaren 750 LT that will come out next year will be a true performance car and the first McLaren I'm excited about.
From my experience the top 2 on this list are the GT2 RS and the Pista with the M5 in third place. Put the same track tires on the M5 and a proper driver and see how close you get to the lap times of the top 4 cars in a 4 door luxury sedan.

Definitely advertising bias. I sold my 2017 ZO6. The F90 is quicker/faster, light years more comfortable. Light years quieter cruising. Steering feel in the F90 is as good as the Zo6. Build quality is light years better in the F90. Only advantage to the ZO6 would be a tight road track. Zo6 would be better there. Heck, the ZR1 was only slightly quicker in the 1/4 in their test by launching the F90 without boost.

[tcw495]

Originally Posted by BM dnobagaV

Well, the f90 technically is a souped up f10. Very few differences overall.

Obviously, newer is better, but not as much as it could've been.

Except the part where it has AWD and is almost 1 second faster in 0-60.

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by GUNGASLOW

How was the E63s station wagon soccer mom vehicle faster than the m5?

I noted above and believe the fools used 2wd to test the F90.... great job R&T as you just re tested a slightly souped up F10 LOL (I jest a little)

But they noted they used 2WD.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

No Launch Control. Plus the 2wd stuff. Sad.

Yup, you can see the 1/4 mil 11.4 @123 lol

[Brasko]

Not bad. I would still take the 911 GT2 RS over all of them....heck, I could buy 3 911's for the price of a McLaren Senna.

[fstezaws]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Drag results “again” have to be without Launch Control. LC is the most misunderstood feature via the auto media. BMW needs a single button with LC on it for the LCI.

Program it to M2 and you literally have 1 button. It's not complicated, yet everyone bemoans it. Head scratcher to me.

Its dumbfounding to see how good the M5C really is in this league!

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by pet3r

Program it to M2 and you literally have 1 button. It's not complicated, yet everyone bemoans it. Head scratcher to me.

Its dumbfounding to see how good the M5C really is in this league!

What onfireX5 means it's to make it Idiot Proof so to speak.
For people like us there is no need.

You can press M2 all day long if you set the wrong settings. Lol

[DallasLife345M]

Originally Posted by BM dnobagaV

Well, the f90 technically is a souped up f10. Very few differences overall.

Obviously, newer is better, but not as much as it could've been.

Not sure where you’re getting your misinformation, it’s completely different.

[BwoodBMW]

Good heavens the GT2RS is a crazy car. Widow-maker continues to be a legend grouped with any performance cars.

[No Boost]

The new RS5 looks to be a real disappointment. $90k and barely a tick faster than the RS3 in all acceleration measurements, including trap speed. Where's the "I gotta have it" factor in this new generation? The old gen was slow, but at least it had an S65-esque high revving V8.

[goj]

Originally Posted by BM dnobagaV

Well, the f90 technically is a souped up f10. Very few differences overall.

Obviously, newer is better, but not as much as it could've been.

You know that couldn't be more false?

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

The new RS5 looks to be a real disappointment. $90k and barely a tick faster than the RS3 in all acceleration measurements, including trap speed. Where's the "I gotta have it" factor in this new generation? The old gen was slow, but at least it had an S65-esque high revving V8.

Completely agree but to be fair everything I've read has said that the performance doesn't tell the whole story and it actually is an excellent GT car at this point. Driving dynamics are allegedly greatly improved. Seems like they are less interested in competing with the brutes like M4/C63S and more interested in creating a stellar driving experience.

I think the RS5 vert will be great. If I'm buying a convertible I don't need it to be 100% performance focused.

[tcw495]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Completely agree but to be fair everything I've read has said that the performance doesn't tell the whole story and it actually is an excellent GT car at this point. Driving dynamics are allegedly greatly improved. Seems like they are less interested in competing with the brutes like M4/C63S and more interested in creating a stellar driving experience.

I think the RS5 vert will be great. If I'm buying a convertible I don't need it to be 100% performance focused.

All cars should be 100% performance focused lol...and then for extra money you can upgrade to get leather seats, A/C, navigation, power windows, etc.

[vtknight]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Drag results “again” have to be without Launch Control. LC is the most misunderstood feature via the auto media. BMW needs a single button with LC on it for the LCI.

Correct. I literally have an 11.4 slip that was used (intentionally in my case) without LC.

Terrible.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by goj

You know that couldn't be more false?

I think some really wanted a different engine than just another upgraded S63. But realistically we will never see another dedicated M5 engine like the V10 again.

[Truspeed]

Its a beast i think im going to get this and make it camouflage like my f10 ❤️

[Stav]

Originally Posted by BM dnobagaV

Well, the f90 technically is a souped up f10. Very few differences overall.

Obviously, newer is better, but not as much as it could've been.

Are you trolling or just being funny? F10 and G30 (F90) are different platforms. Or is it your visual perspective?