Procede

Serjames · 11-08-2007, 04:39 PM

So what are the thoughts out there regarding procede...

I need some facts here guys, It's a seriosu question with a motive behind my madness...

I cant edit the poll, but WOULD add,

"IF I could get it fitted for me, It WOULD change my mind and I'd GO for it."

Please post your thoughts guys, we might have a GREAT offer for you if we can get the interest.

SJ

E92Fan · 11-08-2007, 09:24 PM

SJ

Let's see where this leads first..

Can those who are seriously considering Procede, regardless of their thoughts on their ability to install it or not, PM either James or myself so we know who you are? As James says, we might have a GREAT offer available...

TH

dxb335d · 11-09-2007, 05:54 AM

sounds fun buddY!

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 06:57 AM

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sounds fun buddY!

silverbmwz3 · 11-09-2007, 07:01 AM

Tone's big on post-post moderation this morning

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 07:07 AM

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Tone's big on post-post moderation this morning

Sssssssssssshhhhh!!!!!!!

ps.. it's not as though I don't have enough stuff to do as well!!!!

silverbmwz3 · 11-09-2007, 07:09 AM

I know, we're sorry for posting Tony. We'll ask you before we do in future. Or engage our brains. One or the other. I think Carlos will probably do the former as may be lacking some requisite items for the latter

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

I know, we're sorry for posting Tony. We'll ask you before we do in future. Or engage our brains. One or the other. I think Carlos will probably do the former as may be lacking some requisite items for the latter

G33 · 11-09-2007, 07:11 AM

wat about xede???

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 07:16 AM

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wat about xede???

I think you'll find that the Proceed V2 far surpasses the level of performance that the Xede will produce. The Proceed is a more advanced unit and in V2 form is proving to be quite a suprise even for the more established tuners. Out of all the add-on boxes, Proceed is definitely the one to go for

aldersonjames2002 · 11-09-2007, 07:23 AM

For me, if you added a "Would install it if it stayed in warranty, like Dinan" I would say yes, but unfortunately a large amount of money is at stake if you get caught.. I know.. someone had to say it... now, once its out of warranty I would... for sure.

James

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 07:41 AM

I believe that BMW NA are no longer working in partnership with Dinan.. correct me if I'm wrong? And therefore the Dinan products are no longer covered under warranty.

Incidentally, even if a component in the engine did fail, BMW would have to PROVE with technical evidence beyond all doubt that the component failed due to the reprogrammed ECU. Now, given that the components most at risk are things like the fuel pump, there have been tens if not 100s of cases where these components have already failed due to bad manufacture etc... and all of these failures were NOT down to a reprogrammed ECU. Therefore BMW will still replace these components under warranty, as there is no way to prove that it was the ECU that caused the problem. It is illegal in law to invalidate 100% of a warranty, just because a non-standard part has been fitted. If that modified part itself fails, then fair enough that won't be covered. But otherwise, BMW do not have a leg to stand on. Also, no dealer will put in writing that the entire engine won't be covered under warranty - tuners worldwide have been desperately waiting for a dealer to do that, so they can take the dealer to court to create a landmark case.

silverbmwz3 · 11-09-2007, 08:28 AM

This warranty thing is all about attitude to risk. As far as I'm aware, and I think it would be all over the Beemer forums, no-one has had warranty refused for a re-mapped ECU? Yes, I think I heard about a guy who installed himself and left a wire loose (arguably his own fault) or something but other than that..... so it comes down to whether you think this thing that has never (to my knowledge) happened will happen?

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

This warranty thing is all about attitude to risk. As far as I'm aware, and I think it would be all over the Beemer forums, no-one has had warranty refused for a re-mapped ECU? Yes, I think I heard about a guy who installed himself and left a wire loose (arguably his own fault) or something but other than that..... so it comes down to whether you think this thing that has never (to my knowledge) happened will happen?

Hey I didn't grant you permission!!!

Hotcoupe · 11-09-2007, 08:46 AM

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silverbmwz3 This warranty thing is all about attitude to risk. As far as I'm aware, and I think it would be all over the Beemer forums, no-one has had warranty refused for a re-mapped ECU? Yes, I think I heard about a guy who installed himself and left a wire loose (arguably his own fault) or something but other than that..... so it comes down to whether you think this thing that has never (to my knowledge) happened will happen?

Nail on head Silver, whether it's a plug in or a remap,it all comes down to just that.
I've had 2 cars remapped by DMS,both diesels and neither caused any problems,nor were they picked up by BMW.

I can understand people's reluctance to carry out the mod though,after all if you do have a problem with warranty,it's going to be an uphill battle with the giant that is BMW.

silverbmwz3 · 11-09-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by E92Fan

Hey I didn't grant you permission!!!

Sorry sir tony sir, retrospective permission to post requested sir please sir.

E92Fan · 11-09-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

Sorry sir tony sir, retrospective permission to post requested sir please sir.

View Poll Results: To Procede or not, that is the question
I am Seriously considering Procede	3	30.00%
I am NOT gonna Procede my car - Insert excuse here	5	50.00%
Assuming yes, I am 100% able to install this myself	4	40.00%
Actually I would struggle to install	1	10.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

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E92Fan Moderator 325 Rep 5,493 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: . iTrader: (0)	SJ Let's see where this leads first.. *Can those who are seriously considering Procede, regardless of their thoughts on their ability to install it or not, PM either James or myself so we know who you are?* As James says, we might have a GREAT offer available... TH __________________ ... ... ... DMS Remap Review ----- Quaife LSD Review ----- Hartge Antiroll Bars Review ----- Bilstein PSS10 B16 Ride Control Review ----- Detail by ShineOn ----- Paintshield Review
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silverbmwz3 Colonel 49 Rep 2,022 Posts Drives: X5 g05 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 325 ci SE conv ... [0.00]	I know, we're sorry for posting Tony. We'll ask you before we do in future. Or engage our brains. One or the other. I think Carlos will probably do the former as may be lacking some requisite items for the latter __________________ Current: E90 335d (May 2007) \| Black/Black \| Prof Hifi \| Prof Nav \| 6FL \| Fully Electric Seats \| Xenons \| Folding Mirrors \| PDC Previous: 325ci Conv. Black/Black with lots of ACS Previous: z3 3.0 Silver with Black&Red Leather
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E92Fan Moderator 325 Rep 5,493 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: . iTrader: (0)	I believe that BMW NA are no longer working in partnership with Dinan.. correct me if I'm wrong? And therefore the Dinan products are no longer covered under warranty. Incidentally, even if a component in the engine did fail, BMW would have to PROVE with technical evidence beyond all doubt that the component failed due to the reprogrammed ECU. Now, given that the components most at risk are things like the fuel pump, there have been tens if not 100s of cases where these components have already failed due to bad manufacture etc... and all of these failures were NOT down to a reprogrammed ECU. Therefore BMW will still replace these components under warranty, as there is no way to prove that it was the ECU that caused the problem. It is illegal in law to invalidate 100% of a warranty, just because a non-standard part has been fitted. If that modified part itself fails, then fair enough that won't be covered. But otherwise, BMW do not have a leg to stand on. Also, no dealer will put in writing that the entire engine won't be covered under warranty - tuners worldwide have been desperately waiting for a dealer to do that, so they can take the dealer to court to create a landmark case. __________________ ... ... ... DMS Remap Review ----- Quaife LSD Review ----- Hartge Antiroll Bars Review ----- Bilstein PSS10 B16 Ride Control Review ----- Detail by ShineOn ----- Paintshield Review
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