Cheapened m5

ilushka85 · 03-17-2018, 10:00 PM

So just some small observations compared to when I had my m6(first one) that really cheapen the car :

1. Full leather not full leather anymore
2. Paddle shifters don’t light up
3. M buttons don’t light up
4. Black wheels have silver valve stems — why?
5. Lack of carbon ceramic controls in us especially with dark aluminum carbon trim
6. Steering wheel buttons are very crude and size of printing does not match rest of interior style.

Thoughts ?

SpeedyDad · 03-17-2018, 10:18 PM

Fair points for sure. Still seems pretty nice. And pretty expensive.

esquire · 03-17-2018, 10:25 PM

Maybe. But the interior seats are beautiful - they're a real step up from anything bmw has done before. That to me outweighs some of the smaller (correct) items you pointed out .

elitex · 03-17-2018, 10:45 PM

The entire interior feels much nicer than any other M car. Sure they could've used more leather like they used to.

ilushka85 · 03-17-2018, 11:56 PM

Agreed love mine but these small things stop it from being perfect.

SFT33 · 03-18-2018, 10:28 AM

I don’t think my M button or paddles light up on my F10. Do they?

TheRealOrosie · 03-18-2018, 10:40 AM

This is nicest interior of any M I have ever owned...and this is my 3rd. Beautiful car, and cheapened is the last word that would ever come to my mind.

ilushka85 · 03-18-2018, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

This is nicest interior of any M I have ever owned...and this is my 3rd. Beautiful car, and cheapened is the last word that would ever come to my mind.

While it is nicer overall certain elements are a step backward.

TheRealOrosie · 03-18-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ilushka85

While it is nicer overall certain elements are a step backward.

That is a subjective statement at best.

onfireX5 · 03-18-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ilushka85

While it is nicer overall certain elements are a step backward.

List ?

ilushka85 · 03-18-2018, 11:03 AM

Illuminated shifters used to exist now don’t
Doors were full leather now are not
Etc

TheRealOrosie · 03-18-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ilushka85

Illuminated shifters used to exist now don’t
Doors were full leather now are not
Etc

I personally would never want leather down near the footwell. Much easier to clean scuffs off of dark plastic, as opposed to nice soft leather.

Lighted shifter? I am a much bigger fan of the new mood lighting in the interior dash...looks very slick.

See...totally subjective.

ilushka85 · 03-18-2018, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

I personally would never want leather down near the footwell. Much easier to clean scuffs off of dark plastic, as opposed to nice soft leather.

Lighted shifter? I am a much bigger fan of the new mood lighting in the interior dash...looks very slick.

See...totally subjective.

Every button in the car is illuminated and visible at night including steering wheel buttons so at night you know what you are pushing.

Why does that not apply to paddle shifters and m buttons ?

Pazzo009 · 03-18-2018, 01:15 PM

I agree that the paddles are small and cheap. The M1 & M2 buttons should light up

TheRealOrosie · 03-18-2018, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ilushka85

Every button in the car is illuminated and visible at night including steering wheel buttons so at night you know what you are pushing.

Why does that not apply to paddle shifters and m buttons ?

The M buttons are big and red, right in front of your face. Not sure how you can not see them at night. I certainly would not want them glowing in my face.

I also know where the paddle shifters are...not need to illuminate them imo.

ilushka85 · 03-18-2018, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

The M buttons are big and red, right in front of your face. Not sure how you can not see them at night. I certainly would not want them glowing in my face.

I also know where the paddle shifters are...not need to illuminate them imo.

Are the rest of the steering wheel buttons glowing in your face? Yes I know where they are but I don’t know which is 1 and 2. Or + or - Relying on memorization isn’t an answer that’s why they printed symbols on them and every button in the car

TheBingoBalls · 03-18-2018, 04:02 PM

Makes far more sense to illuminate buttons that are pretty much blended and flushed with each other (steering wheel buttons) than unique buttons (M1, M2, shift paddles) which you know what they are.

TheRealOrosie · 03-18-2018, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ilushka85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

The M buttons are big and red, right in front of your face. Not sure how you can not see them at night. I certainly would not want them glowing in my face.

I also know where the paddle shifters are...not need to illuminate them imo.

Are the rest of the steering wheel buttons glowing in your face? Yes I know where they are but I donÂ’t know which is 1 and 2. Or + or - Relying on memorization isnÂ’t an answer thatÂ’s why they printed symbols on them and every button in the car

You can't remember that M1 is on the left and M2 on the right?

And the paddles...really?

eclipxe · 03-18-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

You can't remember that M1 is on the left and M2 on the right?

And the paddles...really?

They want to nitpick everything...it's kinda sad.

TheBingoBalls · 03-18-2018, 05:54 PM

I get it. If it's something you had before, you kind of wish BMW included it but to everyone else, it's a non-factor.

I can't think of a suitable word but not having illuminated buttons doesn't cheapen anything IMP.

sealionbeast · 03-18-2018, 08:45 PM

I've been driving my F90 around all day. I do not miss the F10 interior at all. This new M5 interior is in another dimension compared to the previous model. It's not even close. Speaking for myself, I won't have a problem remembering M1 left and M2 right, and I have never needed the paddles to be illuminated to know where they are.

josec70 · 03-18-2018, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilushka85

Illuminated shifters used to exist now don’t
Doors were full leather now are not
Etc

F10 M5 doesn’t have illuminated shifters; it’s pretty obvious where they’re located. M buttons are illuminated.

03-17-2018, 10:00 PM	#1
ilushka85 Private 33 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2015 i8 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Cheapened m5 So just some small observations compared to when I had my m6(first one) that really cheapen the car : 1. Full leather not full leather anymore 2. Paddle shifters don’t light up 3. M buttons don’t light up 4. Black wheels have silver valve stems — why? 5. Lack of carbon ceramic controls in us especially with dark aluminum carbon trim 6. Steering wheel buttons are very crude and size of printing does not match rest of interior style. Thoughts ?
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SpeedyDad Second Lieutenant 283 Rep 288 Posts Drives: 2018 F90 M5 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Los Angeles, Ca iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 E39 M5 [0.00] 2018 BMW M5 [0.00]	Fair points for sure. Still seems pretty nice. And pretty expensive.
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ilushka85 Private 33 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2015 i8 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Agreed love mine but these small things stop it from being perfect.
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SFT33 Lieutenant 275 Rep 410 Posts Drives: E28, E34, E60 & F10 M5s Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Annapolis, MD iTrader: (0)	I don’t think my M button or paddles light up on my F10. Do they?
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TheRealOrosie BMW Fan Boy 446 Rep 1,385 Posts Drives: //M Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC iTrader: (0)	This is nicest interior of any M I have ever owned...and this is my 3rd. Beautiful car, and cheapened is the last word that would ever come to my mind.
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ilushka85 Private 33 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2015 i8 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Illuminated shifters used to exist now don’t Doors were full leather now are not Etc
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Pazzo009 Major 1110 Rep 1,314 Posts Drives: X5M,M3(46&36),812SF Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY&GA iTrader: (0)	I agree that the paddles are small and cheap. The M1 & M2 buttons should light up
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TheBingoBalls Brigadier General 3821 Rep 4,660 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 F36 BMW 440i x ... [0.00]	Makes far more sense to illuminate buttons that are pretty much blended and flushed with each other (steering wheel buttons) than unique buttons (M1, M2, shift paddles) which you know what they are.
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TheBingoBalls Brigadier General 3821 Rep 4,660 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 F36 BMW 440i x ... [0.00]	I get it. If it's something you had before, you kind of wish BMW included it but to everyone else, it's a non-factor. I can't think of a suitable word but not having illuminated buttons doesn't cheapen anything IMP.
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sealionbeast Private 127 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2023 BMW M8 Competition Coupe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Newport Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	I've been driving my F90 around all day. I do not miss the F10 interior at all. This new M5 interior is in another dimension compared to the previous model. It's not even close. Speaking for myself, I won't have a problem remembering M1 left and M2 right, and I have never needed the paddles to be illuminated to know where they are.
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