First Wave Over?

shawnhayes · 08-26-2023, 05:07 PM

Having been a new owner of several generations of cars, I notice several different waves of owners. The F90 is phasing out, and the next gen phasing in.

I see the second wave coming. The enthusiasts who enjoy a high priced but high performance and high quality performance car. The users who "sort out" the maintenance and early hardware problems. I've been through the second, third, and fourth waves with other cars (fourth waves are the absolute tried and true diehards who leave blood sweat and tears on the wheels and drivetrain keeping it on the road or track).

I welcome the newcomers and the changes. I'll miss the first wave folks regularly (just as other cars), because they often provide essential insight into the long term hope of the car.

Shawn

windtendo · 08-26-2023, 06:00 PM

First wave here on F90 #2

ResIpsaLoquitur · 08-26-2023, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnhayes

Having been a new owner of several generations of cars, I notice several different waves of owners. The F90 is phasing out, and the next gen phasing in.

I see the second wave coming. The enthusiasts who enjoy a high priced but high performance and high quality performance car. The users who "sort out" the maintenance and early hardware problems. I've been through the second, third, and fourth waves with other cars (fourth waves are the absolute tried and true diehards who leave blood sweat and tears on the wheels and drivetrain keeping it on the road or track).

I welcome the newcomers and the changes. I'll miss the first wave folks regularly (just as other cars), because they often provide essential insight into the long term hope of the car.

Shawn

Great thread, Shawn, and very well said!

Though a G90 DD may very well be in the cards for me, I do not as of now believe my F90 is going anywhere, even if so. I hope I’ll still be in the first wave and still on the F90 side of the house, even if it means splitting my time between here and there.

ResIpsaLoquitur · 08-26-2023, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by windtendo

First wave here on F90 #2

+1! first wave checking in, also on F90 #2.

josec70 · 08-26-2023, 06:40 PM

First Wave .. 2nd F90 M5C.

6th ///M5 .. “OG” Wave .. couple of us on here.

shawnhayes · 08-26-2023, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josec70

First Wave .. 2nd F90 M5C.

6th ///M5 .. “OG” Wave .. couple of us on here.

I too have my second F90. Original 18 straight M5. Could not resist M5 CS though. But pretty sure I’ll be keeping that.

I’m down for a G99 if local dealership can get. Deciding on options if available.

Shawn

josec70 · 08-26-2023, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnhayes

I too have my second F90. Original 18 straight M5. Could not resist M5 CS though. But pretty sure I’ll be keeping that.

I’m down for a G99 if local dealership can get. Deciding on options if available.

Shawn

I’ll be honest .. I’m on the fence. Like you, I will keep my current F90 MC5 but I’m less than certain on the G99.

shawnhayes · 08-26-2023, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josec70

I’ll be honest .. I’m on the fence. Like you, I will keep my current F90 MC5 but I’m less than certain on the G99.

Depends at least a little on price and electric range. $162,000 like the XM, if only 20-25 miles of range, I think that’s not a good choice. Give it 44 miles of range, maybe. 44 miles and $132,000, I’m in.

Shawn

ResIpsaLoquitur · 08-26-2023, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josec70

First Wave .. 2nd F90 M5C.

6th ///M5 .. “OG” Wave .. couple of us on here.

Not just an OG, but the GOAT!

mjr24 · 08-26-2023, 11:54 PM

I don’t know what wave I technically am but I put a lot of miles on my cars….25k per year and in harsh climates at times (winter snow and cold).

My M5 was flawless the 2 years I had it from when it was new….I sold it with like 46k on the clock.

I think the only issue I had was the stupid antenna thing in the back that’s common….the emergency call malfunction or whatever. They just had to replace the battery and it was good to go.

Best thing is I didn’t need to do much maintenance on the car. It never needed a brake job. It was tires here and there and that’s it besides the obvious normal service maintenance.

I would have bought another F90 but I knew there would be a new 5 series coming and I didn’t want to be stuck paying crazy prices (which they were summer of 22) and then have correction hit along with a hit due to a new model.

I think they are really great and solid cars long term….

Greer · 08-27-2023, 12:23 AM

I'm a long-time M5 owner and on F90 M5 number 2 fully loaded.

Neptune7 · 08-27-2023, 01:51 AM

Second M5. Enjoying the CS. I will sell it at some point next year and try something different (non BMW).

pmsteinm · 08-27-2023, 07:56 AM

I've been first wave on all my cars but it is weird to be buying the last model year instead of the first. I've been following this forum for several years and it is very different than the CTS-V ones I was on. So much more leasing and high turnover here. But also a lot more members because of much higher sales volume.

I also read the F10 forum to get and idea of things that might be issues for us in the future.

Jakerx · 08-27-2023, 09:15 AM

First wave checking in.

However, once I read this thread, I knew the second wave had arrived. https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2036224

imperfectluck · 08-27-2023, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakerx

First wave checking in.

However, once I read this thread, I knew the second wave had arrived. https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2036224

Lol, I think for this particular case he was just really having difficulties understanding how heat and DA affects turbo charged cars. The S63 hot V also isn’t doing him any favors in those conditions but I’m also the type of person extensively to scour the forums before asking certain questions.

PDOT · 08-27-2023, 06:30 PM

2nd wave F90, had the F10 and E60. Said Lu I think this is it for me and BMW cars. They’re Just going in a direction I’m not liking.

carseatsm5 · 08-27-2023, 07:22 PM

Not sure what wave I am. Bought it 2020 and not going anywhere.

Will be interesting to see who is still around in 2030!

fun2drv · 08-28-2023, 09:00 AM

First wave here (2019 Competition), and now entering the second wave with one of the last 2023’s that I picked up 3 weeks ago. This is my 7th BMW and 5th ///M car. The 2023 is a carbon copy of the 2019. I have never bought the same car, BUT I truly love the F90 platform. Looking forward to many more years of big smiles!!!

GhostOne_322 · 08-28-2023, 11:53 AM

Just sold my stock 2020 M5 Comp and am settling in with a 2024 M3 CS. Love it so far!

Thanks to all in this group who were instrumental in my choice of the F90 as well as getting it sorted out!

Ex_Stig · 08-28-2023, 11:56 AM

Sold my M5 CS a few weeks ago. Currently very comfortable in my '24 X7 M60i while I hope/wait for the G99 M5 Touring.

I wasn't the first wave for this model M5, but I was one of the first with the M5 CS.

I'll always be lurking in this forum though.

shawnhayes · 08-28-2023, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_Stig

Sold my M5 CS a few weeks ago. Currently very comfortable in my '24 X7 M60i while I hope/wait for the G99 M5 Touring.

I wasn't the first wave for this model M5, but I was one of the first with the M5 CS.

I'll always be lurking in this forum though.

You'll miss the CS. Promise.

You're always welcome back, I'm sure all would agree.

Shawn

Danny D · 08-28-2023, 02:13 PM

at the rate I'm driving my 2018 @ 10,000 KM per year
I will still be here for the next ten years, lol.
Kept my previous 3 series for 12, but that one had 240K on it.
And when I went to the dealer to by an oil filter for it. I saw the M5 in the show room and said that's mine and bought it the same day

.

08-26-2023, 05:07 PM	#1
shawnhayes Major 1839 Rep 1,328 Posts Drives: 22M5 CS,23X5E,24M3 CS,24 i4 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	First Wave Over? Having been a new owner of several generations of cars, I notice several different waves of owners. The F90 is phasing out, and the next gen phasing in. I see the second wave coming. The enthusiasts who enjoy a high priced but high performance and high quality performance car. The users who "sort out" the maintenance and early hardware problems. I've been through the second, third, and fourth waves with other cars (fourth waves are the absolute tried and true diehards who leave blood sweat and tears on the wheels and drivetrain keeping it on the road or track). I welcome the newcomers and the changes. I'll miss the first wave folks regularly (just as other cars), because they often provide essential insight into the long term hope of the car. Shawn
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mjr24 Colonel 1659 Rep 2,406 Posts Drives: M8 Comp GC, X7, AMG GT53 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	I don’t know what wave I technically am but I put a lot of miles on my cars….25k per year and in harsh climates at times (winter snow and cold). My M5 was flawless the 2 years I had it from when it was new….I sold it with like 46k on the clock. I think the only issue I had was the stupid antenna thing in the back that’s common….the emergency call malfunction or whatever. They just had to replace the battery and it was good to go. Best thing is I didn’t need to do much maintenance on the car. It never needed a brake job. It was tires here and there and that’s it besides the obvious normal service maintenance. I would have bought another F90 but I knew there would be a new 5 series coming and I didn’t want to be stuck paying crazy prices (which they were summer of 22) and then have correction hit along with a hit due to a new model. I think they are really great and solid cars long term…. __________________ 2022 M8 Comp GC, 2021 AMG GT53, 2022 X5M Competition, 2021 X7 40i, 2019 M5, 2018 M550I, 2017 Audi Q7, 2014 M6 GC, 2013 Mercedes CLS550, 2011 750LI, 2008 M6 Cabrio, 2008 Porsche Cayenne S, 2004 Mercedes SL55 AMG, 2003 Mercedes SL500, 2000 Mercedes CL500, 1993 Lexus SC400, 1989 525i, 1985 318i
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Jakerx Captain 719 Rep 785 Posts Drives: F90 Comp Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	First wave checking in. However, once I read this thread, I knew the second wave had arrived. https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2036224
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