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      01-28-2022, 08:05 AM   #23
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the wing made the difference lol
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The world would be a better place if auto journalists never did another drag race comparison. What a completely useless metric, especially in the age of Tesla.
Remember their target audience isn't an educated professional but rather car spotters in braces.
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Seriously, how is the Comp getting so badly destroyed? The 1/4 mile time is more than 1.5 seconds higher than the last time they tested it. WTF.
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The world would be a better place if auto journalists never did another drag race comparison. What a completely useless metric, especially in the age of Tesla.
Remember their target audience isn't an educated professional but rather car spotters in braces.
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This video is actually useless!
Carwow has another video showin M5C can go 1/4 mile in 11.1 seconds. They also have another video showing M8C GC can go 10.9 seconds!
I guess that stupid wing on truck is helping M8 to be slower



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M8 is lighter? I think?
Per BMUNA website:
M8 Coupe is 4295 LB
M8 Convertible is 4560 LB
M8 GC is 4295 LB
M5 is 4395 LB.

Based on the difference between M8 Coupe and GC, I believe these numbers are not correct since M8 GC is about 8" longer than M8 Coupe so I believe M8 GC is as heavy as M5 (around 4400 LB)
But must have better drag coefficient IF THAT WING IS NOT THERE

As a side note in reality all these 3 cars are 10.9-11.1 seconds car.
Looks like someone in BMW is trying to push M5CS
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A clear misrepresentation on what the M5C can do
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The world would be a better place if auto journalists never did another drag race comparison. What a completely useless metric, especially in the age of Tesla.
I love these type of videos. I find them pretty informative and certainly entertaining. As much as I like a great handling, well engineered car, I really want them to be quick off the line and keep pulling once they're rolling. The days of trying to rationalize a slow car's performance with good handling are over for me. I want all around performance and there is no reason not to have it in this era.
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I love these type of videos. I find them pretty informative and certainly entertaining. As much as I like a great handling, well engineered car, I really want them to be quick off the line and keep pulling once they're rolling. The days of trying to rationalize a slow car's performance with good handling are over for me. I want all around performance and there is no reason not to have it in this era.
I can understand, but I would prefer a contest wrt vehicle dynamics, which you'll almost never find. Drag races like this however, are everywhere.

When you judge a performance car like this, vehicle dynamics will typically determine it way more than +/- 0.5s to the quarter mile. That's a difference you'll probably will not even feel at all.
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Per BMUNA website:
M8 Coupe is 4295 LB
M8 Convertible is 4560 LB
M8 GC is 4295 LB
M5 is 4395 LB.

Based on the difference between M8 Coupe and GC, I believe these numbers are not correct since M8 GC is about 4" longer than M8 Coupe so I believe M8 GC is as heavy as M5 (around 4400 LB)
But must have better drag coefficient IF THAT WING IS NOT THERE

As a side note in reality all these 3 cars are 10.9-11.1 seconds car.
Looks likes someone in BMW is trying to push M5CS
M8 gc is 4480lbs. BMWUSA has wrong weights. https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1659085

M8 GC is the heaviest car in that race BMW must have given it M5C boost.
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      01-28-2022, 02:47 PM   #34
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Carwow rigged the race to help BMW sells more M8 and M5CS instead of the 'plain vanilla' M5C ��
It did cross my mind, before they raced, Matt asks Yanni, how he thinks the race will go, his straight plain answer is bugging me, "it will be between you and me" is his answer, as if he already knows the outcome ?. How can a car, the M5, with 90kg less weight, compared to the M8, be so far behind ?, it wasnt even just behind, it was football fields behind. Something just isnt right here. Matt has to go and tell the M8 owner, there is something wrong with his car, as in the delimit isnt working, but he should have also gone and told the M5 owner, that something is wrong with his car as well ?. Waited all year for this video, and its a failure.
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It did cross my mind, before they raced, Matt asks Yanni, how he thinks the race will go, his straight plain answer is bugging me, "it will be between you and me" is his answer, as if he already knows the outcome ?. How can a car, the M5, with 100kg less weight, compared to the M8, be so far behind ?, it wasnt even just behind, it was football fields behind. Something just isnt right here. Matt has to go and tell the M8 owner, there is something wrong with his car, as in the delimit isnt working, but he should have also gone and told the M5 owner, that something is wrong with his car as well ?. Waited all year for this video, and its a failure.
The average viewer is oblivious so they are banking on that. I mean on their very own channel not too long ago they had a 21 M5C do 10.9 on the street.
They could’ve made it believable at least by having it complete it in the 11s. 12.7 is just laughable, it was probably in 2wd or had the worst fuel possible.
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The average viewer is oblivious so they are banking on that. I mean on their very own channel not too long ago they had a 21 M5C do 10.9 on the street.
They could’ve made it believable at least by having it complete it in the 11s. 12.7 is just laughable, it was probably in 2wd or had the worst fuel possible.
Its just so far off, that im wondering if BMW have asked that no one shows just how close the M5 Competition is, to the M5 CS, because of their price disparities ?
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M8 is lighter? I think?
Per BMUNA website:
M8 Coupe is 4295 LB
M8 Convertible is 4560 LB
M8 GC is 4295 LB
M5 is 4395 LB.

Based on the difference between M8 Coupe and GC, I believe these numbers are not correct since M8 GC is about 8" longer than M8 Coupe so I believe M8 GC is as heavy as M5 (around 4400 LB)
But must have better drag coefficient IF THAT WING IS NOT THERE

As a side note in reality all these 3 cars are 10.9-11.1 seconds car.
Looks like someone in BMW is trying to push M5CS


No m8 but here's a race between CS and comp.

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      01-28-2022, 04:35 PM   #38
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This video is actually useless!
Carwow has another video showin M5C can go 1/4 mile in 11.1 seconds. They also have another video showing M8C GC can go 10.9 seconds!
I guess that stupid wing on truck is helping M8 to be slower
If you watch the video they cite the 11.1 quarter mile in it. We all know something is off with the M5C's launches in this video. That aside.. look at the track in this video vs the old ones. Notice something? It's dry in the old ones and wet in this video. So the CS ran a 10.9 in this video on a somewhat wet track and the M8C an 11.1. It basically tells you they can both do better. The rolling race kind of gives you a better idea of the difference. Don't have to worry about comparing exact launches etc. Someone posted the Russian video above of the M5C (unclear if modified at all) vs M5 CS. He did a 10.65 1/4 mile in the M5 CS.

I think they did a real disservice to the comparison with busted M5C launches but they have raced the M5C many times on Carwow and seem to hit launch issues with it pretty frequently. With that said.. it's kind of crazy to think there's some kind of BMW funded narrative here. You think they want to make their flagship M car look bad and make the car they have sold out of and won't produce any more of look better? To what end? Their goal is to scare everyone away from buying the car they still sell? This would be some 4D chess plan I dont get.
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I am so pissed and disappointed with my M5C after watching its video and the 1/2 mile times. Trading it for the new M8GC with that M Performance wing and that special M Drivers Package which increases my top speed to 164 miles per hr. Period!
When you feel scammed by BMW, wouldn't you better go for an AMG or CT5V Blackwing? Now you exactly buy into the scam again?
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I am so pissed and disappointed with my M5C after watching its video and the 1/2 mile times. Trading it for the new M8GC with that M Performance wing and that special M Drivers Package which increases my top speed to 164 miles per hr. Period!
When you feel scammed by BMW, wouldn't you better go for an AMG or CT5V Blackwing? Now you exactly buy into the scam again?
I was being sarcastic not changing my M5C because of a stupid commercial video.
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I was being sarcastic not changing my M5C because of a stupid commercial video.
ok, my mistake, you came across so convincing in expressing your anger and greeve!

Enjoy your M5C!
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It seems like when the M5 is on Carwow with non-BMWs it performs as expected. When it's against the 8 or CS, it chokes. What's up with that.
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