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      01-22-2022, 05:24 AM   #1
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Finally, some praise from Motor Trend.

I would be interested in seeing the difference with Pirelli P Zero's on both the CS and Comp.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/
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Finally, some praise from Motor Trend.

I would be interested in seeing the difference with Pirelli P Zero's on both the CS and Comp.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/
Nice review. Thanks for posting. Too bad about the supply chain shortage with the Pirelli P Zero Corsa’s. Although, my dealer was able to order a replacement one for me in a couple days just this past week after I got a nail in one of my Corsa’s. Thank God I got the tire and wheel package!
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Motor Trend focusing on performance data is a miss. They mention nothing about this car's true magic—how beautifully balanced and precise it feels, whether driving casually or pushing it hard. A joy to drive at any speed.
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Motor Trend focusing on performance data is a miss. They mention nothing about this car's true magic—how beautifully balanced and precise it feels, whether driving casually or pushing it hard. A joy to drive at any speed.
Could it be they were trying to calmly present data showing it beat the CT5-V Blackwing in a lot of categories and didn't want to gush over it further? It seems a lot of US outlets blow their load over the Cadillac and feel they must try to simultaneously crap on the CS. Perhaps the CS finally won them over and they're slowly coming to terms? 😂
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^^^Perhaps so. I'm still shocked that the Cadillac beat the M5 CS around a track (forget the exact review). My point is this crap is meaningless to many enthusiasts.
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^^^Perhaps so. I'm still shocked that the Cadillac beat the M5 CS around a track (forget the exact review). My point is this crap is meaningless to many enthusiasts.
Yeah, all about the feels and connection... Some metrics don't matter
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This is a great review from Motor Trend. Makes me want to get the Corsa tires for my M5 Comp.
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This is a great review from Motor Trend. Makes me want to get the Corsa tires for my M5 Comp.
Makes me think if I do a few suspension upgrades with the Corsa tires I'll be 90-95% there.
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Finally, some praise from Motor Trend.

I would be interested in seeing the difference with Pirelli P Zero's on both the CS and Comp.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-bmw-m5-cs-first-test-review/
Nice review. Thanks for posting. Too bad about the supply chain shortage with the Pirelli P Zero Corsa’s. Although, my dealer was able to order a replacement one for me in a couple days just this past week after I got a nail in one of my Corsa’s. Thank God I got the tire and wheel package!
I was weary about doing the wheel and tire package. Maybe I made a mistake not getting it. I only did the extended warranty. I am now worried I won't be able to get Corsas as replacement tires. I'm really enjoying these tires and I'm surprised how stable they are in the wet. I though I would have to drive very, very cautiously but they don't slide all over the place like I thought they would.
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Could it be they were trying to calmly present data showing it beat the CT5-V Blackwing in a lot of categories and didn't want to gush over it further? It seems a lot of US outlets blow their load over the Cadillac and feel they must try to simultaneously crap on the CS. Perhaps the CS finally won them over and they're slowly coming to terms? ��
“Nevertheless, the big sedan pulled an average of 1.04 g on the skidpad, and it recorded a best figure-eight lap time of 23.2 seconds at 0.92 g average. The skidpad number equaled that of the CT5-V Blackwing, and the BMW bettered the Cadillac around the figure eight by 0.2 second and 0.03 g.”

Maybe GM stopped paying the magazines?
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4100 lbs and 627 horsepower giving it a 2.6 second 0-60? Damn. Sounds like that claimed HP is underestimated too…
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4100 lbs and 627 horsepower giving it a 2.6 second 0-60? Damn. Sounds like that claimed HP is underestimated too…
It's German hp.... Probably 627hp at the wheel on bad gas
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4100 lbs and 627 horsepower giving it a 2.6 second 0-60? Damn. Sounds like that claimed HP is underestimated too…
yes, it’s probably closer to 627 whp, so around 700 hp at the crank. Would love to see a Dynojet curve for the M5 CS.
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^^^Perhaps so. I'm still shocked that the Cadillac beat the M5 CS around a track (forget the exact review). My point is this crap is meaningless to many enthusiasts.
It was this one (the Model S Plaid beat both):
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Can't wait to drive the Cadillac. If it feels 80% as good as my M5 CS, I'll likely sell the M5. I love manuals. I almost bought the Plaid a few months ago but cancelled on delivery day because it's a sloppy handling car with little feel and weak brakes.
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2022. So they are releasing more?
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It was this one (the Model S Plaid beat both): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7YqdGt19tw&t=640s
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That's what 1000hp will do in a straight line...

As far as the caddy with a faster time... It's a wash, and we are talking less than a second difference between the three... It even shows that the tesla for that amount of straight-line speeds sucks dynamically.

We're talking .69 of a second..its a win for Caddy, bit thats lift-off or a minor bad line... Tail happy error..

Also, in this review, I would have liked to know what tires did they all have, was it top-spec from the manufacturer as the P zeros are a rarity stateside.
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I think the hype of the Pirelli's falls short of reality. I haven't driven both on my M5, but previous cars have shown me that the Pirelli's are really inconsistent compared to the Michelin's.

But to each his own. Choices are good. Sweeping generalizations are usually not.

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I quit reading after that dude wrote "i'll circle back"
Reviews on the CS are nonsense anyway considering theres only like 250 made for earth.
The people buying already have them, and are already trying to gouge on resale, or plan to lock it away as a collectible.
so basically reviews on the CS are for CS owners or daydreamers to break out the lotion while reading it and/or use the review to justify an astronomical resale price (in a world where kias are going for 20k over msrp)

It's also all just so laughable because heres how its gone for 10 years now
-f10 released- what a boss!! amazing!!
-couple years after f10- its a boat, heavy, no steering feel, loose, numb. nothing like the RAW v10 e60 with lighter tighter chassis and better steering feel!!
-f90 released- what a boss! such a perfect car!
-f90 lci released- what revelation. pre Lci was so rough riding and etc
-f90 cs released - better steering, smoother, little changes but BIG difference, the m5 comp is worlds fastest honda accord.
-f90 out for a few years- the f10 with its RWD only is so raw and rare nowadays and with a 6MT available in some of them. and they still look good. they are so much fun!! hot better get one!!
(when f90 came out the f10 got ragged on hard!!)

you get the picture? its all fluff for whoever needs to hear it
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lets not forget carwow on youtube did a 0-60 in 2.7 in an Lci m5c with CCB's .. in the damp.. so yea..
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lets not forget carwow on youtube did a 0-60 in 2.7 in an Lci m5c with CCB's .. in the damp.. so yea..
Just watched Carwow drag race with M8C vs M5C vs M5 CS. The CS destroys the M5C. No way it's only a 10HP bump in the CS.

I've never driven either car, but I can confirm there is a meaningful difference in the M2C and M2CS. I don't really care that much about straight line speed nowadays since they are all too fast for the street.

On a side note, the M4C beat the CT5 Blackwing around the track (Monticello North) in the Road & Track Performance Car of the Year test.

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I'm sure the Corsas are great, but this just reads like a paid Pirelli ad wrapped in a M5CS story.
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