[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Spook410

For me it's being able to move an acoustic guitar and a wife at the same time. It's a fine car and would make a great toy, but in the end I need a little more room.

I can get the big assed suitcase in the frunk - is it the overall length of the guitar that causes the issue?

[Romo]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

Don't care how many turbo's it has or how marvelous the chassis is - you won't see me spending $50k+ on a 4 cylinder car.

I'll take the parts bin N55 over the 4 cylinder.

I would like to see the 6 cylinder is not lost for the Boxster/Cayman series.

Anxious for the "new" Cayman though.

[Spook410]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I can get the big assed suitcase in the frunk - is it the overall length of the guitar that causes the issue?

Yea.. an archtop guitar case is about 45" long and up to 8" thick. Slides easy enough in a back seat but didn't see a place for it in a Cayman without ditching my significant.

Not out of the question yet. If the new base Cayman is close to the price of the M2, it will take some thought. They are very different vehicles and my requirements are not as crisp as they might be. Really nice to have these kinds of choices.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Yea.. an archtop guitar case is about 45" long and up to 8" thick. Slides easy enough in a back seat but didn't see a place for it in a Cayman without ditching my significant.

Not out of the question yet. If the new base Cayman is close to the price of the M2, it will take some thought. They are very different vehicles and my requirements are not as crisp as they might be. Really nice to have these kinds of choices.

It's been quite a while but when I test drove a Cayman way back when I remember looking and there was enough room behind the drivers seat to put the dog and his seat back there. Or am I remembering another car? Like I said it has been a number of years.

[Aloha Joe]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Yea.. an archtop guitar case is about 45" long and up to 8" thick. Slides easy enough in a back seat but didn't see a place for it in a Cayman without ditching my significant.

Not out of the question yet. If the new base Cayman is close to the price of the M2, it will take some thought. They are very different vehicles and my requirements are not as crisp as they might be. Really nice to have these kinds of choices.

The guitar might fit, I recently took 2 carrying style golf bags with clubs into my local Porsche dealer and was able fit them in the back hatch area of a Cayman. The sales guy had to first remove (seemed very easy), a plastic piece attached to the hatch (right below the window). I believe my drivers are 44-45 inches long and the bags should be about 8 inches thick.

If you're serious about the Cayman, I'd bring your guitar into a Porsche dealer when the new one comes out.

[sstarrx3]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

I wasn't try to insult anyone. I just feel like a lot of people on here put too much emphasis on 0-60 times. It's a metric that most can't even reproduce in real world conditions and represents very little about a car's performance.

True...0-60 is a silly reason to by a car. The 718 we all know will handle better and certainly look better than the M2, while being a smidge slower.

[ClothSeats]

The new 718 put down some ridiculous Ring times. Also, the base 2017 Cayman gets the brakes from the 2016 S. It's a fast car in its own right now.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by ClothSeats

The new Cayman put down some ridiculous Ring times. Also, the base 2017 Cayman gets the brakes from the 2016 Cayman S. It's a fast car in its own right now.

Yes sir - and the S gets the 991 brakes all around (I am pretty sure).

Porsche is counting on the massively increased performance (and tuning potential for the younger folks) to make up for the loss of the F6.

Plus, the tuning crowd is likely familiar with 4 bangers and might not care at all...the only issue with this thinking is that the price went up pretty significantly...so we will see how it plays out.

[csbear]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Porsche is counting on the massively increased performance (and tuning potential for the younger folks) to make up for the loss of the F6.

Key statement right there.... If the performance was a not a big step up from the 981, Porsche would have made a huge blunder on the 718. But I don't think they would have let that happened anyway....

[flyaway]

Originally Posted by ClothSeats

The new 718 put down some ridiculous Ring times.

You have any specific information on this?

[ClothSeats]

Originally Posted by flyaway

You have any specific information on this?

718 Boxster S did a 7:42. For reference that is two seconds shy of the Cayman GT4.

Sorry, I thought they listed a time for the standard Boxster as well.

[Spook410]

One of the reasons I was favoring an M2 over the Cayman was day to day practicality. In terms of space that would still be true but it looks like the M2 will be just as loud as the Cayman for daily driving which does matter to me. If I want a more visceral experience, I would choose the Cayman. If I want refined performance, looks like 'none of the above' in something small and agile.

As for price, it appears that the base Cayman won't be much over the price of an M2. Maybe more than the old base Cayman but the performance floor is now workable. Of course, I should include maintenance cost in that equation. Going to be a hard choice.

[caycep]

How can you actually test drive a Cayman properly? HPDE or some sort of driving event? I assume dealerships won't want you to go over 30 mph on a residential road...

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by caycep

How can you actually test drive a Cayman properly? HPDE or some sort of driving event? I assume dealerships won't want you to go over 30 mph on a residential road...

Depends on the dealership.. my local P-Car dealer let me take out multiple iterations of new 991s (C2 7mt, C2S 7mt, C2 PDK) and directed me to the best back roads to get a proper feel. The only restriction was my own since I wanted to respect break-in for the potential new owner

[hoyasaxa]

Originally Posted by ClothSeats

718 Boxster S did a 7:42. For reference that is two seconds shy of the Cayman GT4.

Sorry, I thought they listed a time for the standard Boxster as well.

I would really like to see a 'ring time for the base Cayman...

The S is definitely faster than the M2, but it's also significantly more expensive.

The base 718 is (barely) competitive on price but slower 0-60. The chassis will be superior, but the car is at a pretty significant power disadvantage (even power:weight).

[Jackie Chiles]

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

I would really like to see a 'ring time for the base Cayman...

The S is definitely faster than the M2, but it's also significantly more expensive.

The base 718 is (barely) competitive on price but slower 0-60. The chassis will be superior, but the car is at a pretty significant power disadvantage (even power:weight).

The big question is how engaging the base Cayman is to drive. Sharper steering, lighter weight and lower center of gravity could win me over. And it might actually be available, too.

[Seagull]

Originally Posted by Spook410

For me it's being able to move an acoustic guitar and a wife at the same time. It's a fine car and would make a great toy, but in the end I need a little more room.

Btw just for reference, I have a Taylor dreadnaught in a case and I can't fit that in the trunk of the M2. I has to go in the back seat. I know you are talking Cayman but just providing some FYI on the m2

[unreg]

Ikea Cayman

[chris719]

Originally Posted by unreg

Ikea Cayman

Out of curiosity, do you think you could get a pair of 170cm long skis in?

[unreg]

Originally Posted by chris719

Out of curiosity, do you think you could get a pair of 170cm long skis in?

Can't say for sure personally but a friend of mine fits his skis or snowboard on his cayman, and I googled a bit and found this shot:

[Spinnetti]

Funny that I never considered the Cayman before because it was not turbo, didn't feel fast compared to my hot rodded Audi and it wasn't realistic to mod for more power. I also don't care about the cylinder count so I must be one of the new age kids (at 51yrs old lol). For me, the hard part is getting the base car knowing the S is there, and all the good options I want but can't have to keep the price realistic. With the M2, its kind of all in. There are no options I want or need, and no other better variant. Kinda feel like if I got the Cayman, I'd always wish for the S. If getting an M2 is too much of a hassle next spring, maybe I should just keep my hot rodded bug and pick an S off lease in 3 years.

[parrnan]

Originally Posted by sstarrx3

True...0-60 is a silly reason to by a car. The 718 we all know will handle better and certainly look better than the M2, while being a smidge slower.

In fact, except on the 0-60 mph or 0-100 kmh, the 718 will be way faster than the M2 because the M2 is limited to 250 kmh when the 918, like every Porsche, is not limited and has a top speed of 275 kmh according to Porsche. The 918 S has a 285 kmh top speed. BMW should follow Porsche example and remove the speed limiter on all its M cars !