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      11-06-2019, 01:55 PM   #23
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I thought guys in the US were getting dealer updates that made the car louder. Now BMW is making US cars quieter?
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      11-06-2019, 02:02 PM   #24
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He's from Greece it seems. It is quite alarming if they're really removing the pops and bangs on 2018/2019 models too.
I'm in Michigan.
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Nooooooooooo........

My car's service history is sure gonna be short.
And the OP appears to be in New York...crap.
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      11-06-2019, 03:14 PM   #25
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I'm scared to take my car in for service now.
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      11-06-2019, 04:27 PM   #26
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He's from Greece it seems. It is quite alarming if they're really removing the pops and bangs on 2018/2019 models too.
I'm in Michigan.
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Nooooooooooo........

My car's service history is sure gonna be short.
And the OP appears to be in New York...crap.
Hence my earlier comment.

I will add, though, that my 2020 Comp went in for a full software overhaul less than 2 weeks ago and it did not affect my exhaust sound.
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      11-06-2019, 05:40 PM   #27
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To be clear, are people experiencing an overall reduction in the db of the exhaust (i.e., how loud it is)? Or did people lose the pops and burbles and bangs from the exhaust?

I just got my 19 M5 Comp back from the dealer after they did the 3 hour software update to fix the backup camera recall here in the states. I still have all my pops/burbles/bangs, etc. BUT, I can't tell if the exhaust has somehow become quieter or not (could just be placebo effect of reading this thread)!!!!
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      11-06-2019, 10:11 PM   #28
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I am bringing in my '19 M5 for the backup camera recall tomorrow (USA). Will report back afterwards in regards to any exhaust changes (hopefully nothing to report!)
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      11-06-2019, 10:39 PM   #29
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I am bringing in my '19 M5 for the backup camera recall tomorrow (USA). Will report back afterwards in regards to any exhaust changes (hopefully nothing to report!)
Why would you risk it? There's no going back as far as we know...
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I am bringing in my '19 M5 for the backup camera recall tomorrow (USA). Will report back afterwards in regards to any exhaust changes (hopefully nothing to report!)
Why would you risk it? There's no going back as far as we know...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum... I was in the first batch of faulty sensor = software update... This is the software update they have pulled I might add... Anyways, my car is TOO loud and the pops and burbles sound like shotgun blasts regardless of speed... Well, let me add, in sport+ and manual shifting... Steering in sport+ is comical - I imagine it is what it feels like to have manual steering... On a semi truck... But yes, even back to stock and the car is making people duck for cover on street corners...

Fine, I might have done it once or twice on purpose but 99.8743%, it's now obnoxious...

But you are correct... There's zero percent chance of being able to go back to prior software - much like pretty much all other electronics in our lives...
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      11-07-2019, 02:33 AM   #31
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Now I want to upgrade max speed limit with M Drivers package, but if I lose pops? I asked the dealer and now they try to find the answer. I will write it here later the results.
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      11-07-2019, 11:24 AM   #32
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Those in the US who have had an update and lost the pops, does your service paperwork have a bulletin number by chance? Post the service ticket, If programming was done something should be listed on there as it sounds that factory tune was updated.
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      11-07-2019, 11:57 AM   #33
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Those in the US who have had an update and lost the pops, does your service paperwork have a bulletin number by chance? Post the service ticket, If programming was done something should be listed on there as it sounds that factory tune was updated.
I didn't get any paperwork but feel stupid now that I didn't ask for it. Went in for winter tires which took 20min, then they came out and said they had to do an update for the backup camera... ok whatever, 2 hours later I'm standing outside my car watching the update happen in real time. The car reset every single system. Seats run through different adjustments, radio turns on AM/FM volume up volume down, turn signals turn on... you get the point.

In terms of the sound - I would always get a little bit of a burble when I would let off the gas and when I was really ripping on it I would get some nice pops/burbles on upshifts and downshifts. Now I rarely have burbles when I let off the gas (tiny ones that only I can hear), and rarely can get any pops. Both burbles and pops were pretty much on demand before this.

After the update the car just feels a little more 'tame'. I've never driven a Camry before... but it feels a little Camry-ish
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      11-07-2019, 12:39 PM   #34
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you can just email the dealer and have them email you the work ticket for your last visit, everything that was done on the car is documented on there.
I believe previous M models always had an adaptive learning curve as far as driving patterns etc, so if F90 still retains this it would make sense that it might be a bit tame right after a full reprogram to factory settings, can someone confirm this? Now if you had zero pop's or burbles of any kind that might be a different story..

but back to the topic, i suggest checking your service ticket first to see exactly what was done, it should all be documented.
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      11-07-2019, 10:16 PM   #35
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I am bringing in my '19 M5 for the backup camera recall tomorrow (USA). Will report back afterwards in regards to any exhaust changes (hopefully nothing to report!)
So I got my car back about 2 hours ago after mounting 4 winter tires and having the backup camera recall (USA).

You can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Pops and bangs are still there - to my ears they sound unchanged! Not louder, not softer, no more/no less of them. Just the same.

Bonus - now my tire pressures are correct (33-34 PSI) and the display no longer shows crazy high recommended pressures (41-44 PSI). In fact, it no longer shows ANY recommended pressures. I imagine the "fix" for the problem was to get rid of the car's abnormal set-point recommendations altogether.

On the car reset issues people have mentioned: The only items I saw reset were the trip odometer and my M1 & M2 settings. My preset seating positions, radio presets, climate settings, etc were all saved.

Hope this helps everyone sleep well tonight (at least US residents).
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      11-08-2019, 08:04 AM   #36
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I am bringing in my '19 M5 for the backup camera recall tomorrow (USA). Will report back afterwards in regards to any exhaust changes (hopefully nothing to report!)
So I got my car back about 2 hours ago after mounting 4 winter tires and having the backup camera recall (USA).

You can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Pops and bangs are still there - to my ears they sound unchanged! Not louder, not softer, no more/no less of them. Just the same.

Bonus - now my tire pressures are correct (33-34 PSI) and the display no longer shows crazy high recommended pressures (41-44 PSI). In fact, it no longer shows ANY recommended pressures. I imagine the "fix" for the problem was to get rid of the car's abnormal set-point recommendations altogether.

On the car reset issues people have mentioned: The only items I saw reset were the trip odometer and my M1 & M2 settings. My preset seating positions, radio presets, climate settings, etc were all saved.

Hope this helps everyone sleep well tonight (at least US residents).
Tire pressure recommendations only appear when selecting an OEM recommended tire setup. I suspect your car is configured for "Other—requires special.." yada yada.
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      11-08-2019, 11:38 AM   #37
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1200 mile service this week. Car is definitely quieter now, which is fine by me.
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      11-08-2019, 10:44 PM   #38
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1200 mile service this week. Car is definitely quieter now, which is fine by me.
What's your location?
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      11-09-2019, 12:15 AM   #39
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This is insane...i have my 1200 mile service due in like 200 miles...im in nyc...got to be honest...getting a bit nervous. It seems inconsistent...some people in the states are affected and some are not...strange
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      11-09-2019, 02:43 AM   #40
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What's your location?
He's in California. I'm in CA as well and get my 1,200 mile service on Tuesday.
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In CA. Had recall update. Car feels more eager now, no change in exhaust note at all,
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