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      10-30-2019, 02:47 PM   #23
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377 miles from my door to theirs....hmmmm

Im curious as to how many f90s theyve tuned thus far
Do it and let us know how it goes!

I decided it's too much money to spend for something with 0 reviews. Will get the jb4 for now and wait.
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      10-31-2019, 05:53 PM   #24
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Yeah, I got Geicos Mechanical Breakdown Insurance also, which has covered Audi's/BMW's in the past for engines blown from tunes. However, I wouldn't put it past them to put up fight on paying out 60k for an M5 engine.
Sure Geico has mechanical breakdown insurance. But, they also say if you have any mods on your car that improve it's performance that it voids they insurance. So I can imaging that would also include mechanical breakdown? My argument is that my performance parts are for gas mileage not for going faster
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Sure Geico has mechanical breakdown insurance. But, they also say if you have any mods on your car that improve it's performance that it voids they insurance. So I can imaging that would also include mechanical breakdown? My argument is that my performance parts are for gas mileage not for going faster
I did not know that. I guess I'll let them know and see what they say. They asked when I signed up.
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I too was interested in this new tune and spoke to the guy Ron and after reading more about it, googled the owner, Ronald Trochelmann and the former owner, now retired whom Id have to guess sold the company's name. Info shown here https://www.noellemotors.de/index.php/en/team-2

Im not sure if its the same guy or how many other Ronald Trochelmann's are floating around (not a common name), however going from owning a small BMW repair shop as shown here https://yelp.to/qTKq/So5UweKFL2 which is now closed to a bankruptcy shown here https://www.docketbird.com/court-cas...:2016-bk-22468 to being indicted for trying to sell Moon rocks?!? As shown here https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB911001389127618500.

Im just speaking for myself here when I say be careful.
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      12-27-2019, 04:05 PM   #27
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Pretty hard to believe you will reach 850 Hp with just a tune and downpipes. I have S2 pure turbos, Keller Downpipes, lusso intakes, and MPE exhaust on mine with S3 tune from DME and I made 788 to the wheel. All my parts were very reliable and second owner is enjoying the shit out of it!!

Hard to believe many companies out here especially with no dyno sheets or any reviews seems a little excessive for just a S1/2 tune with just downpipes. Lets see some real numbers before you guys purchase this kind of product for your vehicle and get your moneys worth on the correct tune with actual numbers!
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They told me 50 M5s ... not sure where they are though lol
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I too was interested in this new tune and spoke to the guy Ron and after reading more about it, googled the owner, Ronald Trochelmann and the former owner, now retired whom Id have to guess sold the company's name. Info shown here https://www.noellemotors.de/index.php/en/team-2

Im not sure if its the same guy or how many other Ronald Trochelmann's are floating around (not a common name), however going from owning a small BMW repair shop as shown here https://yelp.to/qTKq/So5UweKFL2 which is now closed to a bankruptcy shown here https://www.docketbird.com/court-cas...:2016-bk-22468 to being indicted for trying to sell Moon rocks?!? As shown here https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB911001389127618500.

Im just speaking for myself here when I say be careful.
you are correct , it is the same guy.
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Hey all,

I'm curious if anyone is running a Noelle Performance tune? There are a few other BMW platforms running their tune however I haven't heard about them from any F90 M5 owners. I called a few shops in my area Bavarian being one of them and all he said is Noelle Performance look em up. I asked about Dinan and he himed and hawed.

They claim 850hp and a warranty. That seems like a serious number.

Any thoughts would be appreciated
I've had the Noelle tune on my 2020 M760xi now for two weeks. It was worth the 600 mile ride to get it. I just stayed with family in SC. I was walked through the process & the end result was 760hp & 800ft-lb. after the tune, the owner of the shop took me for a ride to show what the tune was capable of. I would never drive the car as he did, but he's a retired professional race car driver and has been servicing European & Italian vehicle since the 1980s. I can say that I happy with everything and that I've already had a scheduled oil change with no issues from the dealership.

At the the end of the day, it was explained to me that all of the systems communicate with one another and that the factory limits of of all components are not reached, so that everything stays within specs. Only suggestions were to switch to Liqui Moly oil or have my oil changed every 6500-7000 miles and trans fluid changed every 30k -40k miles.
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Lots of claims but no performance results made me shy away. One guy on Facebook with an M5 on some kind of race or tour recently posted and promised performance testing but then went silent. Reportedly another person ran on the dyno after Noelle time and got stock levels for power.

I bought a JB4. Lots of testing for that. Likewise for a some other piggybacks and tunes.
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Lots of claims but no performance results made me shy away. One guy on Facebook with an M5 on some kind of race or tour recently posted and promised performance testing but then went silent. Reportedly another person ran on the dyno after Noelle time and got stock levels for power.

I bought a JB4. Lots of testing for that. Likewise for a some other piggybacks and tunes.
I agree I'm the one who asked him and he promised he will post results and video soon but didn't hear anything so far.
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I've had the Noelle tune on my 2020 M760xi now for two weeks. It was worth the 600 mile ride to get it. I just stayed with family in SC. I was walked through the process & the end result was 760hp & 800ft-lb. after the tune, the owner of the shop took me for a ride to show what the tune was capable of. I would never drive the car as he did, but he's a retired professional race car driver and has been servicing European & Italian vehicle since the 1980s. I can say that I happy with everything and that I've already had a scheduled oil change with no issues from the dealership.

At the the end of the day, it was explained to me that all of the systems communicate with one another and that the factory limits of of all components are not reached, so that everything stays within specs. Only suggestions were to switch to Liqui Moly oil or have my oil changed every 6500-7000 miles and trans fluid changed every 30k -40k miles.
Sorry man, the conclusion of all the Noelle support posts is "the car is faster and magically makes crazy amounts of HP and torque totally safely with no need to upgrade hardware." However, Dyno results have been MS paint quality, and EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has bought the tune says "yeah, it's amazing! Dragy/vbox will be here any day now will post the numbers!! Stay tuned!" And then, RADIO SILENCE. ONE guy did post numbers that were worse than a much cheaper jb4.

Verified results are the only way to prove that a product like this works. And it has failed to do so over and over again.
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      06-08-2021, 09:28 PM   #34
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oh boy. here we go again...lol
I guess no one saw the 500 page thread on this from a yr or so ago? From what I saw it's fake and your not allowed to dyno or noelle cancels warranty. Yet to see anything concrete on them
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Noelle? Here we go again - Run the other way would be my opinion. Others have explored this noel the nefarious in several other threads - the forever pending results coming soon on vbox / dragy / dyno (real please) are all promised and then fail to materialize. Stick with the well know options and avoid this “tune” as it likely is just a minor 2nd rate piggy with a throttle position advance making your seat of pants assessment seduce your mind for the first few inches of pedal travel. If it was truly cranking those numbers you would see real results, people boasting great drag times and one on one victories vs stock / others. Not to mention an occasional rod through the block at those levels. So far crickets.
Respect your wallet enough to do a bit of search into the background of said individual, as smartly mentioned by others, if you still want to believe.
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I've had the Noelle tune on my 2020 M760xi now for two weeks. It was worth the 600 mile ride to get it. I just stayed with family in SC. I was walked through the process & the end result was 760hp & 800ft-lb. after the tune, the owner of the shop took me for a ride to show what the tune was capable of. I would never drive the car as he did, but he's a retired professional race car driver and has been servicing European & Italian vehicle since the 1980s. I can say that I happy with everything and that I've already had a scheduled oil change with no issues from the dealership.

At the the end of the day, it was explained to me that all of the systems communicate with one another and that the factory limits of of all components are not reached, so that everything stays within specs. Only suggestions were to switch to Liqui Moly oil or have my oil changed every 6500-7000 miles and trans fluid changed every 30k -40k miles.
Sorry man, the conclusion of all the Noelle support posts is "the car is faster and magically makes crazy amounts of HP and torque totally safely with no need to upgrade hardware." However, Dyno results have been MS paint quality, and EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has bought the tune says "yeah, it's amazing! Dragy/vbox will be here any day now will post the numbers!! Stay tuned!" And then, RADIO SILENCE. ONE guy did post numbers that were worse than a much cheaper jb4.

Verified results are the only way to prove that a product like this works. And it has failed to do so over and over again.
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I've had the Noelle tune on my 2020 M760xi now for two weeks. It was worth the 600 mile ride to get it. I just stayed with family in SC. I was walked through the process & the end result was 760hp & 800ft-lb. after the tune, the owner of the shop took me for a ride to show what the tune was capable of. I would never drive the car as he did, but he's a retired professional race car driver and has been servicing European & Italian vehicle since the 1980s. I can say that I happy with everything and that I've already had a scheduled oil change with no issues from the dealership.

At the the end of the day, it was explained to me that all of the systems communicate with one another and that the factory limits of of all components are not reached, so that everything stays within specs. Only suggestions were to switch to Liqui Moly oil or have my oil changed every 6500-7000 miles and trans fluid changed every 30k -40k miles.
Sorry man, the conclusion of all the Noelle support posts is "the car is faster and magically makes crazy amounts of HP and torque totally safely with no need to upgrade hardware." However, Dyno results have been MS paint quality, and EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has bought the tune says "yeah, it's amazing! Dragy/vbox will be here any day now will post the numbers!! Stay tuned!" And then, RADIO SILENCE. ONE guy did post numbers that were worse than a much cheaper jb4.

Verified results are the only way to prove that a product like this works. And it has failed to do so over and over again.
These are my stock numbers from the track, I'll be updating with tuned numbers the next time I go to the track.
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It's ironic nobody wants to share their Noelle tune numbers that are from a track or draggy... fishhhy...
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It's ironic nobody wants to share their Noelle tune numbers that are from a track or draggy... fishhhy...
Somebody's is ready to get their warranty voided.
Warranty from Noelle that is.
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These numbers are from June 2020… and now we are in September… if he is going to test with the tune, the delta in DA can make a huge difference… considering 11.8 stock run… either LC was not used or DA was 3500+… or both.
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I was going to say that it should not be hard to improve on Antwan229’s numbers. I am not sure the tune is what is making the car slow.
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These are my stock numbers from the track, I'll be updating with tuned numbers the next time I go to the track.
Thank you for posting numbers before the tune. Please do post results after the tune. If you don't post anything, you'll be further confirming a lot of suspicions. The power they have claimed from a flash only with no hardware is really out there.

It does seem that your stock numbers are lower than expected from a stock vehicle in decent conditions. Should be capable of doing better than that at baseline.
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Moderators should require anyone mentioning Noel tune to post dyno (even though it voids noels warranty) or track figures with their post mentioning Noel.
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