[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by Drew1204

Is there a 91 stage 1 octane tune available yet?

Will a 91 stage 2 octane be available as well?

EDIT: is cold start delete also an option currently, and if you have catless downpipes and secondary downpipes can you use the cold start delete without damaging them? I've read stories about people damaging their cats with the cold start delete and wanted to clarify what they meant?

Basically you have the following tunes in OTS maps

91ACN stage 1
91ACN stage 2

91 stage 1
91 stage 2

93 stage 1
93 stage 2

E30 stage 1
E30 stage 2

Some maps have an (AGG) aggressive burble option as well.

[Drew1204]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

Basically you have the following tunes in OTS maps

91ACN stage 1
91ACN stage 2

91 stage 1
91 stage 2

93 stage 1
93 stage 2

E30 stage 1
E30 stage 2

Some maps have an (AGG) aggressive burble option as well.

Awesome thank you.

I see you’ve posted about disliking the smell from the catless downpipes.

From what I’ve read most are going with Keller catless downpipes. Do they make a high flow cat primary downpipe? Trying to prevent a bit of the smell, but keep the power. Are there any options / pairings for that people recommend for a primary and secondary? Then do a stage 2 tune...?

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by euro*

Does it not feel FAST? your initial reaction doesn't seem to have the WOW factor

In to see some draggy numbers

Here you go. Stage 2 e30 ots.

[JBA87]

That's stage 2 e30?

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by JBA87

That's stage 2 e30?

yup. it's only one run, but it was a decent one. when I flashed the ecu, I think it wrote over my tcu file. car doesn't shift gals quickly, etc.

I then upped the boost and picked up some mph, and dropped about .7 seconds 60-130.

I realize cars make power with more than just boost, but 22psi just doesn't cut it in my car here in florida.

[JBA87]

Seems slow

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by JBA87

Seems slow

agreed. was expecting a bit more here...it's only one run, but it was a decent one. when I flashed the ecu, I think it wrote over my tcu file. car doesn't shift gears as quickly, etc.

I then upped the boost and picked up some mph, and dropped about .7 seconds 60-130.

I realize cars make power with more than just boost, but 22psi just doesn't cut it in my car here in florida.

[JBA87]

I did a 7.6 on stage 1 93 octane. ?

Is it a comp?

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by JBA87

I did a 7.6 on stage 1 93 octane. ?

Is it a comp?

no it's a base m5

[JBA87]

You upped w jb4?

How did u up boost ?

What TCU map do you have ?

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by JBA87

You upped w jb4?

How did u up boost ?

What TCU map do you have ?

yep with jb4. attached is at 25psi. prob more in it..

was a beta file from weistec. gonna load it back

[MpowerMike]

Is there a TCU tune available as well ?

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by MpowerMike

Is there a TCU tune available as well ?

not in bm3 platform yet, or at least I didnt see one

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by Drew1204

Awesome thank you.

I see you’ve posted about disliking the smell from the catless downpipes.

From what I’ve read most are going with Keller catless downpipes. Do they make a high flow cat primary downpipe? Trying to prevent a bit of the smell, but keep the power. Are there any options / pairings for that people recommend for a primary and secondary? Then do a stage 2 tune...?

I have gotten used to the smell. I only notice it at stop lights with the windows down. The better fuel you use the less it smells as well. Also, getting rid of cold start fixed much of that initial smell. I do believe Keller offers a high flow but it was on backorder when I looked into it months ago.

Originally Posted by FloridaM5

yep with jb4. attached is at 25psi. prob more in it..

was a beta file from weistec. gonna load it back

I was afraid this would happen. These tunes although stage2 and even an E30 stage2 are very conservative. As with any tune if you buy the over the counter edition its always going to be weak. You need a prescription. And that prescription is a custom tune which I have done with a few different companies and put up record numbers.

In respect to BM3 when you sell a product that is going to so many people at once without being able to log each car, the only way to make that safe is to keep the boost down.

I do feel bad for those that expected to run sub 10.2 on daily stage 2 but it is what it is.

To me, even though I have some great tunes from other companies I still purchased BM3 for the interface and what it brings under its shell. It's really a great tool. What you need to do now is buy your custom tunes if you want better, faster tunes.

[FloridaM5]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

I have gotten used to the smell. I only notice it at stop lights with the windows down. The better fuel you use the less it smells as well. Also, getting rid of cold start fixed much of that initial smell. I do believe Keller offers a high flow but it was on backorder when I looked into it months ago.

I was afraid this would happen. These tunes although stage2 and even an E30 stage2 are very conservative. As with any tune if you buy the over the counter edition its always going to be weak. You need a prescription. And that prescription is a custom tune which I have done with a few different companies and put up record numbers.

In respect to BM3 when you sell a product that is going to so many people at once without being able to log each car, the only way to make that safe is to keep the boost down.

I do feel bad for those that expected to run sub 10.2 on daily stage 2 but it is what it is.

To me, even though I have some great tunes from other companies I still purchased BM3 for the interface and what it brings under its shell. It's really a great tool. What you need to do now is buy your custom tunes if you want better, faster tunes.

For sure man. I understand how the tuning game works....this is the first car I dont have a custom file for. Personally, I wasn't expecting sub-10.2, but def better than 10.6. I'll eventually end up with a six pack of custom ecu files like yourself. lol

[Higgs Boson]

It's also important to not compare your results to someone else's. Weather, geography, road surface, pre-run conditions like intake temps, coolant temps etc can all make a big difference especially on modern cars that kill power based on certain factors.

For example, it used to be that every 10 degrees of air temperature was worth 1% HP, so going from 90 to 80 intake temp would take you from 400 HP to 404 HP or 100 down to 50 would be 20 extra HP......but now when the computer pulls 4 degrees of timing at 90 IAT you suddenly lost 75 HP from yesterday when it was only a little cooler.....

[MpowerMike]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

I have gotten used to the smell. I only notice it at stop lights with the windows down. The better fuel you use the less it smells as well. Also, getting rid of cold start fixed much of that initial smell. I do believe Keller offers a high flow but it was on backorder when I looked into it months ago.



I was afraid this would happen. These tunes although stage2 and even an E30 stage2 are very conservative. As with any tune if you buy the over the counter edition its always going to be weak. You need a prescription. And that prescription is a custom tune which I have done with a few different companies and put up record numbers.

In respect to BM3 when you sell a product that is going to so many people at once without being able to log each car, the only way to make that safe is to keep the boost down.

I do feel bad for those that expected to run sub 10.2 on daily stage 2 but it is what it is.

To me, even though I have some great tunes from other companies I still purchased BM3 for the interface and what it brings under its shell. It's really a great tool. What you need to do now is buy your custom tunes if you want better, faster tunes.

Wow so your telling us that after all of this time that we’ve been waiting and we’re not even getting the full expected power expectations of platform from BM3! Honestly I’m having seconds thoughts now , maybe just go DMEtuning flash . They have some crazy stage 2 numbers.

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by MpowerMike

Wow so your telling us that after all of this time that we’ve been waiting and we’re not even getting the full expected power expectations of platform from BM3! Honestly I’m having seconds thoughts now , maybe just go DMEtuning flash . They have some crazy stage 2 numbers.

she always runs best just before she blows!

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by MpowerMike

Wow so your telling us that after all of this time that we’ve been waiting and we’re not even getting the full expected power expectations of platform from BM3! Honestly I’m having seconds thoughts now , maybe just go DMEtuning flash . They have some crazy stage 2 numbers.

I'm not bashing BM3 by any means. I'm sure these tunes are very solid and like with any tuning company as FloridaM5 said, you have to understand how the tuning game works. Companies are not going to sell you risky files that will ruin your car. Unfortunately, guys like myself post these fast numbers and people expectations raise. It was only a few months ago when getting into 10.3 was considered crazy fast. Now, with more people posting low 10's and a couple below 10, people are expecting more from their stage2 tunes.

No, good tuner will just hand you an aggressive tune for your own cars safety and the safety of their reputation. If you want an aggressive tune you will have to have the right mods, right fuel, be willing to log many times and wait for your tuner to slowly adjust your tune upwards. Also keep in mind, that although FloridaM5 had a good DA it wasn't crazy, out of this world good like some of the testers were posting and sometimes on a track with prepared surfaces.

This is why BM3 offers customer tuning and logging in their platform.

[ss_m5]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

I'm not bashing BM3 by any means. I'm sure these tunes are very solid and like with any tuning company as FloridaM5 said, you have to understand how the tuning game works. Companies are not going to sell you risky files that will ruin your car. Unfortunately, guys like myself post these fast numbers and people expectations raise. It was only a few months ago when getting into 10.3 was considered crazy fast. Now, with more people posting low 10's and a couple below 10, people are expecting more from their stage2 tunes.

No, good tuner will just hand you an aggressive tune for your own cars safety and the safety of their reputation. If you want an aggressive tune you will have to have the right mods, right fuel, be willing to log many times and wait for your tuner to slowly adjust your tune upwards. Also keep in mind, that although FloridaM5 had a good DA it wasn't crazy, out of this world good like some of the testers were posting and sometimes on a track with prepared surfaces.

This is why BM3 offers customer tuning and logging in their platform.

Cant you request custom tunes like you have using BM3? Let’s say I want HCP or DME to tune just my car and use BM3’s platform to data log and flash it like the OTS maps are flashed.

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by ss_m5

Cant you request custom tunes like you have using BM3? Let’s say I want HCP or DME to tune just my car and use BM3’s platform to data log and flash it like the OTS maps are flashed.

Yes, that's what I was talking about above. BM3 is a great platform for housing custom and OTS files along with its many other features.

[ss_m5]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

Yes, that's what I was talking about above. BM3 is a great platform for housing custom and OTS files along with its many other features.

First time for me and It really is a Fantastic platform. I’m waiting on the WiFi piece and I imagine that makes it even better.