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The fact alone that the F90 is going to use another S63 reworked should be enough for all of you to boycott the next M5. It's completely unacceptable, even if they throw in different turbos, intercoolers, etc... The only way it is acceptable is if they made the engine rev to 8,500rpm like a real M engine should, but that will never happen.
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I'd rather get a new R8 though, if I'm being honest.
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I wish some of the members would give the current M5's some track cred. Sure its a family sedan but the M3/4 and M4GTS aren't much quicker.
I don't see any E63 AMG's turning the Nurburgring in 7:55 nor many other cars for that matter. The only big 4 door that beat it was a Porsche Panamera. No big Merc's or Audi's only the M5. Look it up. And it if you wish to take three of your friends along you can still do it in 8:22:49 Nothing to be ashamed of with our cars. |
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Thank you naturally aspirated V10.
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But do those cars/manufacturers develop their own DCTs or are they supplied by a transmission manufacturer like BMW's DCT from Getrag (?) If they are supplied then the excuse of not being able to handle torque isn't accurate because everyone is using a variation but developing your own (Mercedes develops their own transmissions IIRC) to be able to handle torque is obviously totally different.
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Funny. Suddenly 0-60 and GT-cred are what's important, unless we're talking about Tesla of course.
Sold your soul, BMW... and the Model S is still faster on public roads e39 is rolling in its grave |
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I must admit I could cope with the AWD system quite happily but as someone that drives a C63 and RS6 (current gen) regularly as well as having driven a bunch of other cars with ZF8's I'm quite disappointed here, the whole point of the M5 was always that it was just a little bit naughtier and more fun than RS6's and E63's, especially true as the new E63 is AWD (unless you disable everything which most people won't do)
The Panamera Turbo Hybrid has 850nm and uses a dual clutch 8 speed which I assume is from ZF like the normal Panamera Turbo so unless Porsche have signed some weird agreement surely BMW would be able to buy a ZF DCT that supports more torque. |
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i have a bit less sentiment towards special models when they share the same engine as other cars, but with minor tweaks. sure, they buffed the 0-60-100 times a bit with 4wd, but does it really help the car overall?
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Then again, maybe the world will be spared such fate. USA sure is a powerful market... https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/0...egulation.html
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"The 5 is now bigger than a 7 from just a few generations ago. And at over 4k lbs, this is no corner carver. Be realistic here, folks. This thing is designed as a GT car, pure and simple." This was written by a fellow board member and he is right! I own an M3 with Competition Package and if you want a fast, nimble RWD sports sedan get the Alfa Gulia or the M3. So if you really can't live without pure RWD you have two great options.
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