[neohh]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I don't remember questioning anyone financial situation. Also Someone's origin is going to have some impact on taste. An older man that lives a midwestern town or mid Atlantic states vs someone who is in South Florida or Southern California are going to have different definitions of what is "over the top". Glad to see Chris Harris thinks the M is weak in the looks department too. I've always respected his reviews and opinion.

Everyone has different opinion regardless of where you live. In Toronto, one of the most liberal city, we have many people in the 30s like me who picked M5 over e63s, and vice versa. (In fact, we have one of the highest M car per capita in NA). Like I said, it is all subjective and personal preference. If you disagree with me I don't feel the need to "guess" who you are, where you are from, and how old are you. That just shows immaturity and insecurity.

Thanks again for proving my case.

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by neohh

Everyone has different opinion regardless of where you live. In Toronto, one of the most liberal city, we have many people in the 30s like me who picked M5 over e63s, and vice versa. (In fact, we have one of the highest M car per capita in NA). Like I said, it is all subjective and personal preference. If you disagree with me I don't feel the need to "guess" who you are, where you are from, and how old are you. That just shows immaturity and insecurity.

Thanks again for proving my case.

I thought they drive Prius's and Tesla's in super liberal dumps like SF and Toronto because you know the environment man....

[onfireX5]

Hearing various opinions is great. Hearing a Chatty Cathy doll .,,,,,,,,,.puke.

[drgmt]

If that's the result with the standard M5. Wait till the competition pack (fair comparison) is released!

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I don't remember questioning anyone financial situation. Also Someone's origin is going to have some impact on taste. An older man that lives a midwestern town or mid Atlantic states vs someone who is in South Florida or Southern California are going to have different definitions of what is "over the top". Glad to see Chris Harris thinks the M is weak in the looks department too. I've always respected his reviews and opinion.

You have not a clue. And who gives two f***s about Chris Harris. He looks like a fool now doing Top Gear bits with Joey Tribbiani.

[vtknight]

Originally Posted by Goonba

I represent the "vs." of the "F90 M5 vs..." bit of the forum (I don't comment in the general ownership one). What fun would it be if you fanboys all sat here and agreed BMW make the best cars in the world...you would then starting faffing about who owns the fastest M5 from the factory.

So - and I will say this to both of you: you have let “all the fanboys” know you are a hater of the brand. You clearly want or do own an E63S.

Awesome.

No need to come by anymore - you’ve said what you wanted to say.

Thanks for coming by.

[vtknight]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I thought they drive Prius's and Tesla's in super liberal dumps like SF and Toronto because you know the environment man....

You clearly have chosen an E63S. You really don’t like the F90.

We get it. For us that do like it and have purchased one - I don’t know what your hope for staying on this F90 forum is, for you or us, but it isn’t helpful beyond you providing your counterpoint - once.

There really is no need to come by anymore - you’ve said what you wanted to say - message received.

Thanks for giving us your opinion.

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by vtknight

You clearly have chosen an E63S. You really don't like the F90.

We get it. For us that do like it and have purchased one - I don't know what your hope for staying on this F90 forum is, for you or us, but it isn't helpful beyond you providing your counterpoint - once.

There really is no need to come by anymore - you've said what you wanted to say - message received.

Thanks for giving us your opinion.

I've been here a lot longer than any of you. I can comment on whatever I like. If you can't handle my statement snowflake find a safespace. Last I checked this thread was about e63s vs f90. Im making comments regarding comparisons of the cars. If you are so secure in your purchase you should have no problem in a differing opinion. Also you are not the only one browsing
this forum debating whether to get an f90 or not(although we already know you have one so you are bias). I'm sure many others are on the fence on what to purchase and interested in other opinions.

[vtknight]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I've been here a lot longer than any of you. I can comment on whatever I like. If you can't handle my statement snowflake find a safespace. Last I checked this thread was about e63s vs f90. Im making comments regarding comparisons of the cars. If you are so secure in your purchase you should have no problem in a differing opinion. Also you are not the only one browsing
this forum debating whether to get an f90 or not(although we already know you have one so you are bias). I'm sure many others are on the fence on what to purchase and interested in other opinions.

Snowflake? Lol. It has nothing to do with me "handling" your post. I was being polite - but since you asked - let's go over your response;

You being on here longer than me doesn't change the fact your repetitive message has been heard a million times and you are wasting everyone's time repeating it. I have to believe you have better things to do. The moment I bought a BMW I was out of MB forums. Why would I stay lol? Telling me I have a bias because I have an F90 on order is pretty silly considering you have bought an E63S - with your message. Two points about your "others on the fence" comment - first - you gave your opinion; several times. We heard it. You bought an E63S. According to your own post - that makes you biased now. Lot's of MB sites to discuss how great of a choice you made. Second - you think very highly of yourself if you think you are the swayer of opinions lol. You are just another poster who goes on and on about the same content. For what purpose? Why do you even want to stay on here and "say whatever you like"? To "save" people from buying an F90? Especially when your feedback on either car is purely subjective? Who are you trying to convince - yourself?

Take a hike "Colonel".

[bm323]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

Glad to see Chris Harris thinks the M is weak in the looks department too. I've always respected his reviews and opinion.

Try not to generalize what Chris said and group him with your views. Chris mentioned only the rear, did he not? In any event, you prob respect him for his views on the drive, not in the rear looks department, or has he commented on the drive?

[josec70]

Everyone needs to chill .... damn.

[elitex]

Originally Posted by josec70

Everyone needs to chill .... damn.

Die hard fans here. Wait till Audi launches RS6, Autounion guy may show up.

[josec70]

Originally Posted by elitex

Die hard fans here. Wait till Audi launches RS6, Autounion guy may show up.

LOL. F90 will be my 5th M5 so I get the diehard part.

[frankchn]

Originally Posted by elitex

Die hard fans here. Wait till Audi launches RS6, Autounion guy may show up.

It would be interesting especially if they put the Panamera Turbo S drivetrain in there - 650+ hp with instant torque from a electric motor? That’d be quite something.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by josec70

Everyone needs to chill .... damn.

Yeah I know lol.

That aside, sometimes I feel like these German manufacturerers (especially MB and BMW) are in secret agreement that lets not make one car so superior to another that it will sway the entire market and set off an arms race.

Last gen's M5 and E63 are only 1 seconds off each other on the ring according to SA's supertest. The current generation looks close performance wise as well (at least on straight line so far), it will come down to other preferences like looks, sound, and etc.

[josec70]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Yeah I know lol.

That aside, sometimes I feel like these German manufacturerers (especially MB and BMW) are in secret agreement that lets not make one car so superior to another that it will sway the entire market and set off an arms race.

Last gen's M5 and E63 are only 1 seconds off each other on the ring according to SA's supertest. The current generation looks close performance wise as well (at least on straight line so far), it will come down to other preferences like looks, sound, and etc.

Both cars are great IMO and it really comes down to subjective preferences as neither car' s a clear cut winner.

I think the MB is a great car but I like the styling and interior dynamics of the F90 better. Many have said they wish BMW would have been more innovative w/ the F90 (myself included) but the reality is that the F10 M5 is a damn good car ( on my 2nd) so for me the jump to the F90 for me is comfortable and AWD's a game changer.

I respect both brands and look forward to seeing both platforms evolve.

[jc05e46m3]

This is more of what I expected.

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I've been here a lot longer than any of you. I can comment on whatever I like. If you can't handle my statement snowflake find a safespace. Last I checked this thread was about e63s vs f90. Im making comments regarding comparisons of the cars. If you are so secure in your purchase you should have no problem in a differing opinion. Also you are not the only one browsing
this forum debating whether to get an f90 or not(although we already know you have one so you are bias). I'm sure many others are on the fence on what to purchase and interested in other opinions.

Bro, I'm back! ...and so happy to see you crushing these softies.

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

I don't think anyone came here from AMG forum to argue. I had had an M5 coming until last week until I realized that even with a 5k individual paint job it still will look weak and lack the presence of an M car. I don't need to convince anyone. I can state my opinion and so can others about being on the fence about the M5 because some of us find it a weak resign with the same motor. Why are you so insecure you can't handle hearing others opinions? Same motor, slap an x drive system in, use the same zf 8 speed in the every other BMW and not much interior wise. I don't see how it isn't a light redesign.

I was late to the game here, but you're so right. That's why I'm really torn on staying with the Audi line and getting something like the new RS7 when it arrives...or a matte E63S. Im baffled on the fact that BMW isn't being more aggressive with the M5 styling.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

I was late to the game here, but you're so right. That's why I'm really torn on staying with the Audi line and getting something like the new RS7 when it arrives...or a matte E63S. Im baffled on the fact that BMW isn't being more aggressive with the M5 styling.

Ive owned or own both currently (matte) and have had 8 M's including 3 M5's... so Ill be back soon but these two rides are really quite great and the matte paint makes them that much more aggressive.

I have an E63S now and yes its a great car... is it better than the F90- I cant say because I have not spent any seat time in the car and I wont (compare) without at least a 1 day test drive that BMW will afford me at some point (I know a few dealer owners). So for me to comment would only be in the supposition format. I do think that based on what Ive read and heard that I will wait for the ZCP (I didnt on my 2013 but did get it on my 2016).

My E63S right by the recent fires (very close by the way)



and my matte RS7 (yes its a fatty like the E63S but the sportback is such a cool design to me)

[onfireX5]

Very nice !

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Ive owned or own both currently (matte) and have had 8 M's including 3 M5's... so Ill be back soon but these two rides are really quite great and the matte paint makes them that much more aggressive.

I have an E63S now and yes its a great car... is it better than the F90- I cant say because I have not spent any seat time in the car and I wont (compare) without at least a 1 day test drive that BMW will afford me at some point (I know a few dealer owners). So for me to comment would only be in the supposition format. I do think that based on what Ive read and heard that I will wait for the ZCP (I didnt on my 2013 but did get it on my 2016).

My E63S right by the recent fires (very close by the way)



and my matte RS7 (yes its a fatty like the E63S but the sportback is such a cool design to me)

Wow. Just some absolutely gorgeous cars. Great explanation as well. Im excited to see what happens with the ZCPs. I'm just not sold on the new m5 yet knowing I could just throw the APR Stage II on and call it a day. I've really been considering the X5M and going all out with @pureturbos and a tune, but am scared to leave something so unique. Here's my current car: