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      06-27-2019, 08:46 PM   #111
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Interestingly my ceramics have made almost no noise in 11,000 miles. I can hear a faint squeak here and there only if the windows are down.
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      06-28-2019, 03:57 AM   #112
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meh, steel brakes will stop the car just as hard. i'm not actually sure about the distance.. but if i put you into both a steel, and CC car and jammed on the brakes, there is no way you could tell me the difference..


that being said, my dads m5 has been squealing non stop now. Think he needs to do some hard stops or something.
Yes. You can tell the difference. The pedal engagement is different. Again, if you don’t think they are worth it - don’t get them.
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      06-28-2019, 12:08 PM   #113
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Honestly CCB all curb appeal.
They are incredible brakes and anyone that has experienced them bring this massive car to full stop will agree with me.

Don’t want to spend the cash on them - then don’t. All curb appeal - nope.
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Honestly CCB all curb appeal.
They are incredible brakes and anyone that has experienced them bring this massive car to full stop will agree with me.

Don't want to spend the cash on them - then don't. All curb appeal - nope.
LOL! Steel brakes will stop the car just as fast, believe me. I buy all my M cars with CCB if the option is available for 'Curb appeal' but I hate how they start squeaking almost immediately.
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      06-28-2019, 02:23 PM   #114
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Yes. You can tell the difference. The pedal engagement is different. Again, if you don’t think they are worth it - don’t get them.


whatever helps you sleep at night.
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      06-28-2019, 03:31 PM   #115
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Anybody have a source for the best carbon ceramic pads for steel brakes? Thanks.
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      06-28-2019, 04:59 PM   #116
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Trevor your dad has an M5 - not you. Zip it.
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      06-28-2019, 05:53 PM   #117
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Trevor your dad has an M5 - not you. Zip it.
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      06-28-2019, 06:13 PM   #118
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Love my CCB, there was an adjustment coming from steelies in my 14 m5, but I'm used to them now. The bite is ferocious on initial application... less linear progression so you have to think about those behind you. Have my wheels coated so the minimal brake dusk is not an issue.
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      06-28-2019, 07:36 PM   #119
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Trevor your dad has an M5 - not you. Zip it.


yes, this is well known. i've made that pretty clear. whats your point?
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      06-28-2019, 09:24 PM   #120
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Make sure to break-in (bedding in) the carbon ceramics.
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      06-29-2019, 03:33 AM   #121
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yes, this is well known. i've made that pretty clear. whats your point?
I think you know what what my point is.
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      06-29-2019, 05:46 AM   #122
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Yes. You can tell the difference. The pedal engagement is different. Again, if you don’t think they are worth it - don’t get them.
I agree, you can feel the difference and they are way more aggressive. I had two M4s in 2016 at the same time and the one with the CCB was a lot easier to stop with much less peddle pressure. Yes, they both stopped, but the steel brakes felt mushy to me after driving the CCB car for a bit.

The two F90s I have purchased both have CCB and so I can only compare to the dealer’s M5 I have driven with steel and the same feel to me, mushy in comparison. The CCBs are much more grabby to the point my wife coming from her M550 doesn’t like them because she keeps putting herself through the windshield. Takes her time to get used to it which is good for me so she doesn’t like driving my M5.
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I think you know what what my point is.


i don't, and don't really care. stop getting in your feelings because i said you can't feel the ceramics.
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      06-29-2019, 02:45 PM   #124
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Trevor - you don’t have a car with ceramic brakes. In fact - you don’t even have an M5. You have no idea what you are talking about. Clear enough?
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Trevor - you don’t have a car with ceramic brakes. In fact - you don’t even have an M5. You have no idea what you are talking about. Clear enough?



and you clearly can't read. carry on with your life now.
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      06-29-2019, 10:41 PM   #126
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When I attend BMW school the instructors told me for them M5 steel or CCB brake point during the taxi runs are the same, so whatever CCB's advantage is negligible.

Frankly they weren't high on F10 M5's CCB. Maybe it's different for F90 but I haven't gone to BMW school to ask them, have moved on to open wheel school since then.
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      06-29-2019, 10:57 PM   #127
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Sold on CCBs

I was VERY nervous to get CCBs on my 2014 F10 M5 Competition. heard they squeaked, would get damaged easily, would crack when wheels removed, ruined by armor all or other car products, and don't work when wet. All of that is BS. Have 5 years of flawless, quiet, clean operation, zero problems, and look awesome. Will be getting them on my 2021 LCI replacement F90 car for sure.
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      06-30-2019, 03:43 AM   #128
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Trevor - Daddy let you back his car out of the driveway?
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      06-30-2019, 06:17 AM   #129
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Trevor - Daddy let you back his car out of the driveway?


all the time
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      06-30-2019, 06:29 AM   #130
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I got CCBs on my F90, my F10 had steel brakes. The stopping power on the F90 is sooo much better. The breaks are really sensitive, it seems they apply quite a bit of stopping power even with a light pedal press, compared to the F10, but I got used to it after a couple of stops.

I can't compare steel vs ceramics on the F90, but I can compare CCBs on F90 vs steel on the F10 - it's night and day difference. I could feel brake fade on the F10 after a couple hard stops and I have to press the pedal much harder for serious braking. I took the F90 through a mountain pass recently, where there was little to no traffic, so I was able to take some corners quite fast and I was more than pleased with the stopping power and consistency of the CCBs. Pretty sure the steels would've faded on a few occasions.

Also absolutely no noise from my CCBs and no dust either. Drove through a couple of torrential downpours too (people were actually pulling over due to poor visibility), even some light hail and I didn't feel any decrease in stopping power when wet.

Personally I wouldn't buy another car without CCBs, totally worth the money for me.
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      06-30-2019, 06:50 AM   #131
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Interesting thread. With the exception of maybe three posts, this is a collection of people justifying their decision to buy, or not buy, ccbs.

Op, drive both, back to back.

oops ...just realized this thread is old
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      06-30-2019, 08:03 AM   #132
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I was at the Thermal, Ca driving school and the instructors like the CCB, but for the M5, they couldn't get parts out of Germany fast enough, so the CCB M5s were sitting and we couldn't drive them.
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