02-24-2020, 10:40 AM | #23 |
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That M5 is ridiculously too fast against others, I don't think that was because the extra weight of those wagons, think BMW got more power than stated.
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We'll see how the new RS7 fares against the M5 in a few months.
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M5 is a beast, that P wagon looks pretty good tho!
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These hokey runway drag races always make me smh. Does Europe not have a proper 1/4 mile racetrack, with a Christmas Tree and timing lights?
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BMW also has a considerably faster transmission compared to Audi. It kicks down very fast and shifts quickly. I think only the PDK transmission is faster. Even when the RS6 performance comes I still expect it to lose to the M5 comp.
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Well looking closely the RS6 is equivalent to the M5 vanilla.
The Mercedes is 'equal' and the Porsche is sort of on its own. Technically a 'turbo' in Porsche speak is a comfortable daily driver that overcompensates for its tech and comfort and soft suspension with a massive engine. The Panamera is a bit of a dissapointment for me just because they aren't trying so hard on the weight loss. Meanwhile the 5 series lost enough weight to fit in an AWD system and weigh the same as the E60. Anyway, results are good for BMW becuase it goes the extra mile on weight loss I'd guess. All great cars though |
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Soft suspension in relation to what exactly? A racecar? Have you driven a Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo S? Have you driven any current Turbo S anything? While I haven't so much as sat in a Panamera Turbo S; I've driven a 911 Turbo S and I wouldn't call the suspension "soft."
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Someone from the M5 side on this forum should write to carwow on how to consistently launch M5 (the whole comfort mode on suspension don't build too much boost) so we get this result all the time...
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I don't like his channel, so much worthless chatter. Then, usually a worthless race, followed by more worthless "so what exactly happened" chatter. We know, we saw what you saw, not like one of the cars missed turn 2 while you were filming another at turn 4.
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It's not supposed to look aggressive. You can always get a Charger hellcat if you want aggressive looks.
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GT3 team goes for a track focused car. I suppose the bmw equivalent is a CS or CSL. The Turbo team is out to make the best grand touring version of the 911. Big power.m, but top speed, and comfortable ride with all the modern comforts. Unless Porsche is turning the 'turbo' name into meaningless top trim it's likely the Panamera is set up for a different job than an M5 comp. Which is already aiming for low weight and an eye for the track. It doesn't really make sense to make a track performance focused 4 door sedan anyway, but BMW sure does a nice job. But you're right, I haven't driven a Panamera turbo S just base 911s. I suppose the S does tighten and lower the suspension 20 mm or so |
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