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      05-01-2020, 12:39 AM   #199
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BM3 has OTS maps which are mild. You cant compare OTS map with custom made maps. BM3 is just a platform from where you can have any tuner load their map. I found BM3 OTS and custom HCP tunes to run perfect on several F90s and just the customization from the BM3 is unmatching from a user poit of view. Logs, map switches in a matter of minutes are just unbeatable to me.
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I don't think I was really comparing the maps but ok. I agree with you BM3's platform is fantastic, its the best I have used. Now whoever is responsible, please do us all a favor and lets us switch maps between BM3 and DME seamlessly
Very easy just send a request to DME on Bootmod3 for a Custom Tune and Evolve if they are listed if not have them email you a 2mb or 4mb file of their tune so you can load it up (single file).


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Agreed!

I email BM3 to work on the issue

I would LOVE to use BM3 to toggle between DMe
And other maps ..

But DME s e30 tune cant be loaded in BM3 and the stage 2 tune doesn't work w/o throwing a CEL when loaded in bm3.. works fine in femto
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Femto is just a flasher, it's not so convenient because it takes so long to switch maps and requiring 2 files lol.
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Except BM3 doesn't work with DME or Evolve

So we really can't use BM3 to switch maps


Also I purchase the HCP custom and they just have me BM3 OTS
HCP has Stg1, Stg1+,Stg2 and Stg2+. I have run on one F90 HCP stg1+ with OEM cats and downpipes runs 5.9 sec 100-200 time and othe F90 with BM3 OTS Stage2 with catless downpipes runs 5.7 100-200. Just shows you how moderate the BM3 OTS really is. All on 98ron fuel map.

What people dont seem to understand that cant expect to run some crazy nimber on 93 oct. Even if they do they go after dragy times and go wot from low rpm in low gear, and bad fuel, strong map and low rpm wot is a recepie for knock and thats when you bend a rod.

At least they could install wmi and not to map the car to depend on wmi rather to have it as a safety precaution, but since most of the cars are leased I understand its hard to go that route.
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DMEs stage 2 tunes do not work in BM3. i requested them from DME and we loaded them and the car continued to throw a CEL when loaded through BM3. If I load his tune (same file) in Femto no problem. I don't think BM3 supports all of the tables he modifies. We called BM3 tech support to resolve the issue and they weren't very helpful. Also, we attempted to load the DME file via upload (the way you are suggesting for evolve) and the option to flash wasn't even available (you couldn't press the button). We contacted BM3 several times regarding issue and they never fixed. This is part of the problem with their email only tech support that takes hours upon hours (sometimes days) to respond. The main reason I bought BM3 is for the very reasons you are stating, but I ran into so many issues that I jumped ship. If you can get BM3 to resolve my issues (ie so I can load my Femto files for DME and Evolve into BM3 and for HCP to send me a strong stage 2 custom map on 93 and E30, which I paid for), then I will load up my BM3 now and exclusively use that tool for all my logging and flashing needs ...in fact, this is what I wanted from the get go and the main reason I purchased BM3 first !!
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Can I load a DME and or Evolve tune via femto and then use DME read in BM3 to copy that into BM3?
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DMEs stage 2 tunes do not work in BM3. i requested them from DME and we loaded them and the car continued to throw a CEL when loaded through BM3. If I load his tune (same file) in Femto no problem. I don't think BM3 supports all of the tables he modifies. We called BM3 tech support to resolve the issue and they weren't very helpful. Also, we attempted to load the DME file via upload (the way you are suggesting for evolve) and the option to flash wasn't even available (you couldn't press the button). We contacted BM3 several times regarding issue and they never fixed. This is part of the problem with their email only tech support that takes hours upon hours (sometimes days) to respond. The main reason I bought BM3 is for the very reasons you are stating, but I ran into so many issues that I jumped ship. If you can get BM3 to resolve my issues (ie so I can load my Femto files for DME and Evolve into BM3 and for HCP to send me a strong stage 2 custom map on 93 and E30, which I paid for), then I will load up my BM3 now and exclusively use that tool for all my logging and flashing needs ...in fact, this is what I wanted from the get go and the main reason I purchased BM3 first !!

Sorry to hear you had trouble. I have no experience with dme tunes so I cant comment on that.

Did you try in BM3 when you select the loaded dme map, can you selet the configuration button like you can with ots map? Where you can select various option such as cats no cats max cooling mode boost by gear etc?

I also have flashed a few F90 with Femto and on 1 occasion I had the flash broke in the middle of the process for no obvious reason. Car was left stranded, I couldnt start the car nor flash back to stock (femto,esys etc...) . Solution was I had to take the ECU's out and bench flash it back to stock than code it again back when in the car. So no solution is 100%.
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Very easy just send a request to DME on Bootmod3 for a Custom Tune and Evolve if they are listed if not have them email you a 2mb or 4mb file of their tune so you can load it up (single file).
I asked DME they said its an issue with BM3 they need to fix it. I haven't asked BM3 but I'm sure they will say its DME's issue and they will need to fix it. I have the files I'll try loading them into BM3 as you suggest. Thx!
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The two femto files won't work (I don't believe) because those are files for each DMe. I think you need one file for both DMEs. Did Mo send that ? It's a bigger file than the femto fileS ( I believe)
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The two femto files won't work (I don't believe) because those are files for each DMe. I think you need one file for both DMEs. Did Mo send that ? It's a bigger file than the femto fileS ( I believe)
Nope, just the two files. The two files make it even a bigger pain in the ass. Did you get one file? I just wish they would work this shit out and get it working for us. I have a local dyno tuner that said he can even get me working through BM3 no problem. So I don't know what the issue is here.
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Anyone got any videos for those stage 2 maps with Aggressive burble vs normal Burble?
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Anyone got any videos for those stage 2 maps with Aggressive burble vs normal Burble?
It will pop and bang for days if you like them. I had it for a day and couldn't take it anymore. Sorry no videos.
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Anyone got any videos for those stage 2 maps with Aggressive burble vs normal Burble?
I have a video with normal burbles. Matt@AutoCouture informed me that the aggressive burbles will get annoying. I think he was right, I'm happy with the outcome.


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Anyone got any videos for those stage 2 maps with Aggressive burble vs normal Burble?
It will pop and bang for days if you like them. I had it for a day and couldn't take it anymore. Sorry no videos.
That was my concern too since bootmod3 didn't provide anything regarding their maps. I wanted to make sure it won't be annoying for daily use! Which seems it will be lol
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Anyone got any videos for those stage 2 maps with Aggressive burble vs normal Burble?
I have a video with normal burbles. Matt@AutoCouture informed me that the aggressive burbles will get annoying. I think he was right, I'm happy with the outcome.


This sound really good 👍🏻
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Anyone got any videos for those stage 2 maps with Aggressive burble vs normal Burble?
It will pop and bang for days if you like them. I had it for a day and couldn't take it anymore. Sorry no videos.
That was my concern too since bootmod3 didn't provide anything regarding their maps. I wanted to make sure it won't be annoying for daily use! Which seems it will be lol
stage 2 with DP's will already give you a little more burbles. it's the perfect amount for me.
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Does any one know the 100-200 time of bootmod stage 2 on pump gas? Thanks.
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I have a video with normal burbles. Matt@AutoCouture informed me that the aggressive burbles will get annoying. I think he was right, I'm happy with the outcome.




sounds great. I think alot of people are over-doing it with the burbles, it's getting ridiculous. it sounds dumb, and childish.
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Does any one know the 100-200 time of bootmod stage 2 on pump gas? Thanks.
100-200 KM/H 5.7-6.5 range will depend a lot on pump gas quality
100-200 KM/H for E30 is 5.0-5.6 range
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100-200 KM/H 5.7-6.5 range will depend a lot on pump gas quality
100-200 KM/H for E30 is 5.0-5.6 range
Hmmm, i’m doing 100-200 in 6.5 with just a racechip on all stock. That is more like a stage 1 time that you quoted.
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Hmmm, i’m doing 100-200 in 6.5 with just a racechip on all stock. That is more like a stage 1 time that you quoted.
Quality of pump gas is critical and that's what holds back the 100-200 in the USA. But in EU my friends are all 5.3-5.5 on pump gas.
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