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I find it amusing how this discussion could be overlaid to the same discussions that happened on BMW boards when the e46 M3 CSL was released (was initially considered to be overpriced and pointless) and same with the M2 CS (which was thought to be just carbon bits on an M2C). History continues repeating itself over and over again with limited run BMWs.
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I've been reading Evo for over a decade, and respect their work. I can tell you Evo doesn't give 5 stars lightly - even most supercars/hypercars have 4-4.5 starts. If my memory serves me, the F90 CS is the first M5 to earn 5 stars since...well, since my favorite M5, the E39.
Coming on the heels of the M2 CS (and after the somewhat disappointing F8X CS), it does seem that there is a subset of M engineers who are pushing the envelope. And for that, I am glad. Not glad enough to trade my M2C for an M2CS for my boring daily commute (and the unrealistic hope that I will be able to find time to take epic drives soon) or consolidate my dream 3 car garage (which, while modest, I have) into the F90 CS...but still glad that the R&D is occurring and will likely flavor M cars in the future.
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I expect the CS to beat the Porsche in the ring even without rear wheel steering. It's so much lighter. But eager to see the factory time! |
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I do believe the CS will be close or under the gt63 time of 7:25:xx when factory times post, only to be overtaken soon by the gt73. The project 8 has a completely different price point and purpose. Agree it’s unusual they haven’t so far, yet we see the Nürburgring outline on the headrest! Thanks for sharing the link to the Corsas. I also don’t think most CS buyers are buying the car as their exclusive track cars so comparing track times is simply an academic exercise for most of us, myself included. Last edited by malrash; 06-10-2021 at 05:50 AM.. |
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For those saying this is a reflection of how good the M5C is, I think they're forgetting how lukewarm journalists feel towards that car (in terms of subjective experience, not objective performance).
It really seems BMW has figured out how to bring back that special "something" with the CS models, where they are much more than the sum of their parts. I just wish BMW went back to when that's what all M cars were. |
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Correct me please, but I would spec the following to get a similar M5CS: M5C...Sish -Base M5 - $103500 -Brands Hatch Grey - $0 -Black full interior - $3500 -Competition Package - $7600 -M Carbon Ceramic Brakes - $8500 -M Driver's Package - $2500 -BMW M Performance Rear Diffuser - $1250 -BMW M Performance Rear Spoiler Pro - $827 -BMW M Performance Steering Wheel Pro - $1970 TOTAL M5C - $129,647 I would NOT INCLUDE: -Executive Package (in the M5CS, you lose front ventilated seats, front and rear heated seats, front massaging seats, soft close doors, power rear sunshade) -Driving Assistance Plus Package (lost is the Active Driving Assistant Pro, as well as Extended Traffic Jam Assistant for limited access highways) -Bowers & Wilkins Diamond Surround Sound System For anyone wanting to use this as a template to play around, you can copy/paste the build code <<EHW5VBYV>>
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Those seats would kill long drives for most people, I tried them in the M3...............horrible after one hour.
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- M Drive professional - $900 - Carbon shift paddles (from IND) - $785 - Carbon Engine Cover - $1490 - M2 CS Carbon hood on IND is $9,090 painted (lets assume the cost is the same, even though m5 CS hood has more intricate detail) now i'm at $141,912. |
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I'm sure my M5 CS which is on the way will be even better. While my own M2 is fun, it doesn't put the power down on the straightaways, and the M5 hauls more track gear to and from the track. Shawn |
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Nope. I have no clue who he is either.
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you guys are over analyzing this. If you didn't buy one, cool. If you bought one, great. Sounds likea bunch of people bitching about the price tag. All these cars are overpriced, 5 years from now they'll barely be worth 50. Move on.
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This is savage but hilarious and 100% on point. Joe, while I like him, is a fan boy with reviews that are lite and absolutely no depth.
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