[stbm5]

part number for wheels?

[BwoodBMW]

it better have the m stripe seat belts. Priorities guys.

[BM dnobagaV]

Meh..

[jaehshim]

what a joke seriously haha...
why not add another edition with tricolored pinstripes on door handles

[stefan]

Did BMW fire anyone who could design wheels?

[tcw495]

When will the configurator go live on BMW USA?

[c63er]

Originally Posted by Db750

Unfortunately my last few post here have not been overly positive (and that's only when I care enough to even post) and I guess this is going to be more of the same......

1. Why the hell is BMW, the brand that ten years ago made cars that sounded the same or better than an Italian exotic, the only German manufacturer left that can't make a decent sounding valve exhaust (with button to open and close) on their M cars? MB have sounded good for years (just a different brand of sound), Audi has been making great sounding valved exhaust for their cars at least as far back as my friends old V8 RS5, and my 991 has one of the BEST German OEM exhaust out there IMO. And here with are with BMW releasing their new M5 with the same old moter and its the same old BS junk stock exhaust, better junk comp package exhaust, or spend the value of a new Carolla for the "M Performance Exhaust" (lol). This is a huge fault for me as ten years ago BMW taught me sound was one of the #1 emotional connections to a car.

2. AT THIS POINT WE ALL KNOW THE COMP PACKAGE IS COMING AND PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL HAVE (because other than stupid trim pieces it's always the same). What the hell is the reason to wait one single model year to put it out other than screwing loyal customers who aren't as in tune with the brand!?!? It's time to do like MB and release the comp package along side the "normal M" (since we have to pay extra for the comp package for what used to be a normal M) and let's preferable not wait until damn near LCI time to do it!

Sad to say but it's looking like very soon will be the first time since I was able to afford a BMW I won't have one in my garage. I really would love one but they are just straying too far from what made me lust after them as a kid and fall in love with them once I could afford one.

Well it is clear that BMW is simply following the Apple model of releasing something "new" every year and playing on people's emotion to get the sale. Substance is secondary. I suspect a lot of "fans" will buy this just for the badge on the back.

Ironically as you mentioned, Mercedes-AMG who I would expect to go this route have not at all gone this route and are actually doing the opposite. Putting out models with substantive changes and being very transparent and telling us "don't wait for the next best thing because it's not actually coming." Their recent c63 facelift was basicly nothing which was pleasantly surprising and current c63 owners don't have to feel like they are driving yesterdays car.

I think this is because Mercedes AMG has a strong personality running the show for so many years now (Tobias Moers) and he has kept a steady hand on the brand and made it more and more enthusiast friendly while BMW M has gone from enthusiast friendly to corporate greed in the vw/Audi style. Shame

[IAHawk13]

So exactly when is the Compitition M5 in the states?

[DallasLife345M]

Originally Posted by tcw495

When will the configurator go live on BMW USA?

Knowing bmwusa.com, about 6 months from now.

[GB///M]

Originally Posted by rjd598

Rpim5...young man your persuasive essay is due. Where art thou?

This made me lol. You know it's coming

[Remonster]

Those wheels are just perfect! Amazing what a nice set of wheels does for the overall look of a car.

[Dethsupp0rt]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Why does that same link, bimmer.work. Show 447KW for the standard M5 ?

Because that's what it is. 1 kw = ~1.34hp

[IB M]

Not sure the consensus or if there is one but the word competition under the M5 logo is a fail imo. Makes it look like Bmw is trying too hard. Let the car speak for itself.

[R123]

Originally Posted by MartinS

Door handels om first edition is from G01 X3. I ordered the to get rid of the chrome.

Could you please provide part numbers and where did you order them?

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

Because that's what it is. 1 kw = ~1.34hp

But the BMW Germany site lists it at 441KW ????

[advantage20]

Wheels look too 'empty' with these slim and widely set apart spokes, should have been 10 double/Y spokes like on other Competition models.

[walile]

Originally Posted by Db750

2. AT THIS POINT WE ALL KNOW THE COMP PACKAGE IS COMING AND PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL HAVE (because other than stupid trim pieces it's always the same). What the hell is the reason to wait one single model year to put it out other than screwing loyal customers who aren't as in tune with the brand!?!? It's time to do like MB and release the comp package along side the "normal M" (since we have to pay extra for the comp package for what used to be a normal M) and let's preferable not wait until damn near LCI time to do it!

If someone is a loyal BMW customer or a BMW fan, wouldn't that individual be aware of the Competition Package, likely content and release time frame?

I wouldn't spec the Competition Package just like I would avoid the Carbon Ceramic Brake like a plague, but that's just me. What BMW is doing is offering a slightly different flavor of the M5 at a price that most people wouldn't pay for. Not to mention the possible sacrifice in passenger comfort.

Are you equally frustrated when Porsche releases the GT3 RS some months after the GT3?

[ljb]

Agree, but want the Comp Pack badly

[walile]

Originally Posted by ljb

Agree, but want the Comp Pack badly

May I ask why you want the Comp Pack?

Is it the look of lower ride height? Sharper handling? Blacked out exterior trims? Slight power increased covered by factory warranty? Or something else?

Not questioning your choice or taste, just genuinely curious from a marketing and product differentiation point of view. There is a reason why BMW is offering it, I just don't quite understand the appeal.

[ljb]

Originally Posted by walile

May I ask why you want the Comp Pack?

Is it the look of lower ride height? Sharper handling? Blacked out exterior trims? Slight power increased covered by factory warranty? Or something else?

Not questioning your choice or taste, just genuinely curious from a marketing and product differentiation point of view. There is a reason why BMW is offering it, I just don't quite understand the appeal.

I prefer the black styling, the package comes with extra options and added value in Australia. Priced still under the E63. I have been told after the 50 units of the launch edition and few first edition cars are sold, Comp Pack will be the only offering in Australia. So no choice really.

But probably silly buying a first/launch edition when all the other cars are Comp Pack in Australia?

I believe they are offering it because people will pay for it. They want the fastest newest thing they offer. There's a large market for that in this segment, why only go 90% of the way went most people buying an M5 can afford to go the extra 10%. Just my opinion, but BMW Australia know this hence why the Competition Package will be on every car sold from September

[mjr24]

Wheels look like garbage in the pics.....will have to wait to see in real life. M5 OEM wheels have been real disappointing....Competition or non-Comp. Need to have a nice-looking set of 5 spoke wheels for a car like this.

[walile]

Originally Posted by ljb

I prefer the black styling, the package comes with extra options and added value in Australia. Priced still under the E63. I have been told after the 50 units of the launch edition and few first edition cars are sold, Comp Pack will be the only offering in Australia. So no choice really.

But probably silly buying a first/launch edition when all the other cars are Comp Pack in Australia?

I believe they are offering it because people will pay for it. They want the fastest newest thing they offer. There's a large market for that in this segment, why only go 90% of the way went most people buying an M5 can afford to go the extra 10%. Just my opinion, but BMW Australia know this hence why the Competition Package will be on every car sold from September

Thank you for sharing your perspective. Really appreciate it.