[TrevorM3]

Anyone have these? very cheap...

https://www.googleadservices.com/pag...Qwg8IMw&adurl=

[Miko M]

Its hard for most of us to buy parts that don't have good established Name like: Akrapovic, Eisenmann, etc...
[COLOR="Blue"]I personally wouldn't trust the fitment!!![/COLOR]

[hybrid_eg]

i suggest you look away. Megan racing, CX racing and the like all make subpar products.

I learned the hardway back in the day after i put a CX racing manifold on freshly built RB26 motor. After short drive, found out my wastegate wasnt closing, upon closer inspection a piece of round metal was sitting there, manifold didnt even have inside welds cleaned up, chunks of metal still hanging on the inside walls from when manifold was being assembled and welded piece by piece.. these particles dislodged and went back into the motor.. destroyed a brand new GTX3582 and motor.. long story short that was at least 10K damage to save 2K on proper manifold..

[Drm5]

just look at the bending area on the downpipes.. they look like they restrict the flow

[r33_RGSport]

That's only the secondary. For couple more bucks, you'll get a made in USA product that is pretty good in quality and known brand in BMW community.

[///M ARMY]

Who wants free downpipes

[TrevorM3]

guess this is a NO lol

[Ledbetterjw]

304 stainless.... if they bolt up, should be just fine... come on people, we're discussing metal pipes.... it's not rocket science. Even if whatever section is slightly smaller, you're not going to notice a difference in a 4000+ lb sedan, lots of divas on here!

[Ledbetterjw]

If I weren't too cheap to waste $550 for downpipes, I'd buy these out of all on the market, but I plan on making my own for even less!

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by Ledbetterjw

304 stainless.... if they bolt up, should be just fine... come on people, we're discussing metal pipes.... it's not rocket science. Even if whatever section is slightly smaller, you're not going to notice a difference in a 4000+ lb sedan, lots of divas on here!

You'll be surprised how many company cheats on the material or got cheated by the pipe supplier.
Especially when they are sourced from China.

[Quinn A]

Originally Posted by Ledbetterjw

If I weren't too cheap to waste $550 for downpipes, I'd buy these out of all on the market, but I plan on making my own for even less!

i made my own too for my macan turbo, people on here have no understanding of the fact that they are just metal stainless steel pipes, my F80 has EC downpipes because i got a pair used, cheaper then the cheapest ebay ones.

$550 doesnt seem too bad compared to how much labour it will save. I always find it hilarious how people try to justify that they spent 6 figures on a car so somehow that car will reject the "cheap" pipes and that they NEED to buy the incredibly overpriced name brand ones.

[Quinn A]

Originally Posted by Ledbetterjw

304 stainless.... if they bolt up, should be just fine... come on people, we're discussing metal pipes.... it's not rocket science. Even if whatever section is slightly smaller, you're not going to notice a difference in a 4000+ lb sedan, lots of divas on here!

what do you expect, most people that spend $100k on a car dont want to hear that $550 pipes work just as good as $2500 ones.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Quinn A

what do you expect, most people that spend $100k on a car dont want to hear that $550 pipes work just as good as $2500 ones.

true. and you have all the vendors spending big money to advertise on here too...

[Quinn A]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

true. and you have all the vendors spending big money to advertise on here too...

Yup exactly. Though i agree with you, $550 for those pipes is still a lot, i would also make them myself ( or have any welder make them ) unless i can score a killer deal on used ones.

I Just fitted a performante exhaust to my 17 R8 the other day, the exhaust had a few small bends i had to work out as it came from a rear ended one, but $1000 and 4 hours of fitting it and i have a factory exhaust that keeps the dual mode actuators.

Sounds almost identical to my performante, hoping a tune gets it to the same level.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Quinn A

Yup exactly. Though i agree with you, $550 for those pipes is still a lot, i would also make them myself ( or have any welder make them ) unless i can score a killer deal on used ones.

I Just fitted a performante exhaust to my 17 R8 the other day, the exhaust had a few small bends i had to work out as it came from a rear ended one, but $1000 and 4 hours of fitting it and i have a factory exhaust that keeps the dual mode actuators.

Sounds almost identical to my performante, hoping a tune gets it to the same level.

i see you're a bargainer like me.
i refuse to overpay for pipe..


thats interesting you fit the performante exhaust onto the r8. i imagine an exhaust cost for the r8 to be astronomical.

question for you, i'm highly considering the r8 as my next car, did you lease or purchase if you dont mind me asking? i did some light research and i believe i'll be better off buying a CPO one instead of leasing. But not 100% sure yet. Any input is appreciated, thanks!

[KellerPerformance]

Originally Posted by Quinn A

what do you expect, most people that spend $100k on a car dont want to hear that $550 pipes work just as good as $2500 ones.

Don't like to get into debates like these but I had "4" clients switching to our downpipes because they've had issues with their cheaper downpipes, rattling, not aligning right, leaking, one of the shops even claimed it was damaging turbos because the flanges were bad, made out of pieces, having many welds is the weakest point of a downpipe, ours are mandrel bent based on 3D modelling for a smooth flow pattern and least welds, and 3.5' comparing to some "known USA brands" that taper off to less than 3" at flanges which should only hurt the performance. So you can buy a cheaper set, then take it off, pay twice for the install and switch to a good product, or just go with a product that has already proven it's quality and performance, but to each their own.

[///M ARMY]

Originally Posted by Quinn A

Yup exactly. Though i agree with you, $550 for those pipes is still a lot, i would also make them myself ( or have any welder make them ) unless i can score a killer deal on used ones.

I Just fitted a performante exhaust to my 17 R8 the other day, the exhaust had a few small bends i had to work out as it came from a rear ended one, but $1000 and 4 hours of fitting it and i have a factory exhaust that keeps the dual mode actuators.

Sounds almost identical to my performante, hoping a tune gets it to the same level.

I laugh at people paying full price for something that literally cost a couple hundred to make. That's just me. A company telling you yes it's ok to pay 2500 for quality and our name is just insane but that's just me .

[KellerPerformance]

Originally Posted by ///M ARMY

I laugh at people paying full price for something that literally cost a couple hundred to make. That's just me. A company telling you yes it's ok to pay 2500 for quality and our name is just insane but that's just me .

Do you laugh at people who buys wheels for 10-15k ?

[KellerPerformance]

Originally Posted by ///M ARMY

I laugh at people paying full price for something that literally cost a couple hundred to make. That's just me. A company telling you yes it's ok to pay 2500 for quality and our name is just insane but that's just me .

A " couple hundred to make " , my pacaking and accessories alone is a couple of hundred with free shipping, you DON'T know anything about costs to make QUALITY product from scratch based on 3d Scanning and 3 modelling, mandrel bending, r&d back to back for best performance and fitment, other development costs, overhread cost, storage cost, salaries to TOP certified welders for welds to look like art that wont be prone to leak or bad flow, state of the art CNC work for flanges, so please don't assume things and don't mislead people based on your "knowledge"

[///M ARMY]

Originally Posted by KellerPerformance

A " couple hundred to make " , my pacaking and accessories alone is a couple of hundred with free shipping, you DON'T know anything about costs to make QUALITY product from scratch based on 3d Scanning and 3 modelling, mandrel bending, r&d back to back for best performance and fitment, other development costs, overhread cost, storage cost, salaries to TOP certified welders for welds to look like art that wont be prone to leak or bad flow, state of the art CNC work for flanges, so please don't assume things and don't mislead people based on your "knowledge"

Sounds like I touched a button there. I expected better from a vendor on the forum. Please don't attack people and there opinion if you don't really know my background or what I do. Everyone has their own opinion regarding product and pricing. Im sorry if your overhead cost and accessories is a lot but that's part of business. Consumers see the comments that vendors make, telling the consumer you know , you don't know anything about my business or my cost or anything regarding the industry is based off of your assumption. And also realize that your not the only vendor that has downpipes are over the $2k range. I work the government in automotive sector so I know so called true cost. But good luck Keller. Never once called you out for your product. Now I'll never buy it

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by KellerPerformance

A " couple hundred to make " , my pacaking and accessories alone is a couple of hundred with free shipping, you DON'T know anything about costs to make QUALITY product from scratch based on 3d Scanning and 3 modelling, mandrel bending, r&d back to back for best performance and fitment, other development costs, overhread cost, storage cost, salaries to TOP certified welders for welds to look like art that wont be prone to leak or bad flow, state of the art CNC work for flanges, so please don't assume things and don't mislead people based on your "knowledge"

I understand where you are coming from. When you are a manufacturer and actually have employees, taxes, insurance, laws, buildings, equipment, bank payments, R&D ,risk management, warranty obligations, delivery obligations , etc,etc etc. Things cost what they cost depending on the quality/quantity that is involved. Kudos to Tou for producing parts for The BMW platform. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Everyone can purchase to the level that they can afford or desire or not.

[Quinn A]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

i see you're a bargainer like me.
i refuse to overpay for pipe..


thats interesting you fit the performante exhaust onto the r8. i imagine an exhaust cost for the r8 to be astronomical.

question for you, i'm highly considering the r8 as my next car, did you lease or purchase if you dont mind me asking? i did some light research and i believe i'll be better off buying a CPO one instead of leasing. But not 100% sure yet. Any input is appreciated, thanks!

I purchased it. They dont lease good, and i got my 17 R8 for under $110k since it was a convertible. I also purchased my performante, got it for $18k under MSRP so im not worried about losing my ass when i replace it in two years. My porsches and AMGs i purchased, but BMWs i always lease, well 9/10 times.