[Majikthese42]

Originally Posted by and1bball919

GET A VOLVO u wont die in that thing

Buy a $5000 Volvo.

After you wreck it, buy a new BMW.

If you don't wreck it after two years, buy the BMW anyway.

[HarjotM]

Originally Posted by ward

so what's different about the larger motor model that makes it handle better than the 328? same size tires on both (width) sam brand tires on both


why would the one that weighs more handle better? It makes zero sense.

does the 335 have different suspension than the 328 (in a way it has to, to account for the heavier motor)?

people need to take personal feelings and personal purchase decisions out of it.

maybe you drove a non SP 328 (all season tires) and then a SP 335 (summer tires)?

They both had summer tires. It could be that 300+ hp was getting to my head
So whats the deal with LSD? I know but the civic si comes with lsd, why can't a 335 come with one?
civic si costs like 1/3 of the price compared to 335, again sorry and I know

[Carnage]

I asked my magic 8-ball and it said BMW.

[ward]

LSD only really helps in tighter corners when the inside tire'd usually spin (in a 335 that's alot more likely than a small motor E9X)

the lack of a LSD is both a cost cutting measure, and an item left out to make M cars more exclusive. The things are quite expensive if you look for an aftermarket one (2 grand isn't unheard of) and I'm sure they don't want to get more expensive as we're already driving the most expensive car in the class!

I really don't think there'd be a benefit in the 325, 328/330 maybe, and the 335 would really respond well to one.

it just helps the car power out of the corner rather than just spinning the tires

[Souljah]

Rule of thumb....your very first car should either be a hand-me-down, or it has to be older than you are...

i worked my ass off and some more, and i have to do dirty things to get to where i am right now...i'm jealous when a 16 year old kid that just barely got his penis to fully grow in length pick between 2 very powerful car that many people will dream and drool over and not be able to afford it...

I'm just hatin', this is a BMW board, 99% of the biased owners here will say BMW, and i will tell you, BMW...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

if you are going to get a BMW, i suggest that you get the 328i, because there is no need for the 335i. it has too much power and is too nice for a 16 year old kid

I agree--I think it is nice to start a little lower and then work your way up to a bigger engine. The BMW is so much more car than I am used to that if I had 70 HP more, right from the get-go, it might have been a bad thing. As I have adapted to the better steering, control, and braking--the extra HP would be nice now--but I am completely happy with what I have. And I saved about 6-7 grand (which being relatively young, is a good thing).

[HarjotM]

Originally Posted by ward

LSD only really helps in tighter corners when the inside tire'd usually spin (in a 335 that's alot more likely than a small motor E9X)

the lack of a LSD is both a cost cutting measure, and an item left out to make M cars more exclusive. The things are quite expensive if you look for an aftermarket one (2 grand isn't unheard of) and I'm sure they don't want to get more expensive as we're already driving the most expensive car in the class!

I really don't think there'd be a benefit in the 325, 328/330 maybe, and the 335 would really respond well to one.

it just helps the car power out of the corner rather than just spinning the tires

must get lsd

[Fraggy]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Yeah, sounds like you have a real rough life, son. How about getting A's, working part-time to save up just enough to buy a used Honda Civic or something for your first car, then going to college, get A's again in college, graduate college, go out into the business world, work you a$s off for many years, and then buy yourself a $50,000 BMW. What ever happened to integrity and a little sense of self accomplishment and self worth these days? Sorry, just had to vent. Ok now, get whatever your heart desires.

Shit dude, I agree with you 10000000%.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Fraggy

Shit dude, I agree with you 10000000%.

+1

[Zeroday]

-2

jealousy is a real bitch huh. tons of people work their asses off in their lifetimes only to die of cancer/whatever before they can enjoy the fruits of their labor. he'd would be a moron to turn this car down, and you are lying to yourselves if you say you'd turn it down.

[Souljah]

No one said anything about turning it down....we just hatin' cuz our first cars were older than we were...

I'm only kidding anyways, i built my foundation with my bare hands so i'm proud of what i have...i'm 25 and i can say that i've made a good life for myself....my own place, 2 bikes, an M3 and a beater...and i have no credit cards debt...just car payments to make...

[enwhykiid]

there 2 different cars each in completely different categories, but of course i would go with the bm just for the fact that u get so much with the car

[Fraggy]

Originally Posted by Souljah

No one said anything about turning it down....we just hatin' cuz our first cars were older than we were...

I'm only kidding anyways, i built my foundation with my bare hands so i'm proud of what i have...i'm 25 and i can say that i've made a good life for myself....my own place, 2 bikes, an M3 and a beater...and i have no credit cards debt...just car payments to make...

Do you work in porn?

[Tropicool]

the kid wants a comparision between a bmw and a sti. That is what we should give him over life lessons.

my friend has an STI and it feels like it will break. It feels like its made outta cardboard or something. Bmw is much classier and has a more solid feel.

i too am young. I paid for my own car, but looking back it would have been better to invest the money.

just if u get the car promise me ull get a lotta pussy.

[doctordel]

Originally Posted by Zeroday

-2

jealousy is a real bitch huh. tons of people work their asses off in their lifetimes only to die of cancer/whatever before they can enjoy the fruits of their labor. he'd would be a moron to turn this car down, and you are lying to yourselves if you say you'd turn it down.

Skip this unless you want to fall asleep and the Ambien hasn't kicked in yet...


Can definitely feel your position, zero, but your assumption of jealousy is a little hard-edged and pretty, well, presumptuous. I am not looking for your ire, as you previously laid on sflgator; just offering perspective...

No one's opinion ever means anything to anyone else unless they can back it up with personal detail and, above all, it has to come from the heart. I completely see your "live for today" approach, take what you can and to hell with tomorrow because tomorrow may never come. Well, you are correct but if you are to live your life as if there is nothing to aspire to, then why bother living at all? Now, this guy may just have had his "success thermostat" set significantly higher than most of the rest of us who were raised in a different fashion. Maybe to his family the 335 and the STi are the same as a Civic to the rest of us. Seriously, if you can afford to buy your kid a Gallardo, the 335 is practically child abuse. If that is the case then snosk8tr may keep his apirations alive with dreams of a Bentley GTC for passing Differential Equations his junior year at USC-I don't know. If that is what he has been led to expect from life, then so be it and best of luck to him. The "haters" as you call them have all given their opinions based on their experiences, which does not in any way make them wrong or malevolent; just inconsequential to snosk8tr's "dilemma."

Also, I think that it is pretty obtuse to assume that their opinions are reflective of jealousy or hate towards snosk8tr. Ask yourself if you feel-for either yourself or your children (present or future)- that the teaching of personal responsibilty is an important part of parenting and that part of this includes the imparting of reasonable expectations of reward that are commensurate with the level of difficulty of the task. If so, then should a good HS report card and $20,000 of 100% discretionary capital be worth a very fast, very dangerous, very expensive car? Not to me, but I am not his daddy. He asked for the opinions of (mostly) adults who have been there already and have a perspective that reflects experience; that is not the same as jealousy.

[HarjotM]

Originally Posted by cantc0pe

the kid wants a comparision between a bmw and a sti. That is what we should give him over life lessons.

my friend has an STI and it feels like it will break. It feels like its made outta cardboard or something. Bmw is much classier and has a more solid feel.

i too am young. I paid for my own car, but looking back it would have been better to invest the money.

just if u get the car promise me ull get a lotta pussy.

+1

[snosk8tr123]

k thanks for all that guys...

[john0213]

To all:

Omg, you guys rule~!!! I love the peacefulness of this forum. so far, i have yet find too much offence in this thread yet~!!!! I came from my350z.com and if you take a look there, i bet this thread will turn into a "spoil brat" name calling flame war. It's you guys that makes me appreciate bmw more than other brand; the educated response and the way people reply the thread is just so much more mature than the Z forum's. Anyways, too much off topic stuff here.


snosk:
I guess one important factor in deciding two cars is to look also at the transmission. For your age, you will have to think seriously whether you want to live with a manuel transmission or not. the major difference between the 335i and STi is the tranny, for the 335, you will have the choice of the auto gear box, whereas for the STi, you are left with only one choice, the manuel. I, myself find it hard to believe someone who can live with a manuel gearbox unless you are very determined that you will love one. imo, i suggest you get a manuel rental, spend two to three days learn how to drive a manuel, then spend two hours into really test driving an STi and see if you like the manuel or not. As for the test drive, try to get to a spot with a lot of traffic and be stuck in there for a while, then imagine how you have to go through that everyday if you were in a traffic. Now, if those situation didn't persuade you into getting an auto gearbox, then you have met the qualification for driving a manuel.

I am driving a 350z now, and i will be switching to a E92 M3 next year. for a person to move from a japanese car to a german car, the only opinion i would give is that i appreciate the interior much more. having live with my Z for four years, i was immediate drool by the interior of the 335 after i have test drove it. I cannot describe how stunning is the finish of the interior, the leather used, the small touching on detail stuffs, they all accumilate a lot of points to my heart. After test driving the 335, i was pretty set in putting my order on a M3. It's hard to feel the difference on internet and pictures, you will have to live with the car to be able to really notice what i am saying. Get a good sales person, thoroughly test drive both, compare some of the details, take all the references and go back home discuss with your parents, seek advice from them and see how they felt too. Remember, though it's your car, it's always wise listening to a third person's perspective, they are not as hype up and involved in the decision so they have a clearer view. Furthermore, if they don't know car, then you are able to get a general impression of how the general public looked at your car because general public does not know too much about cars; afterall, we are the enthusiasts and much of our views are very different than the general public.

One of the essential fact about making a decision about purchasing a car is not to get too excited, you will most likely overlook a lot of things when you get too excited. Try to look at the car and do the research rigth now, but make a decision later. Look at both cars, get all the information needed, test driven both, then take the references back home and discuss it with your parents for their opinion. After that, try to put away the stuff for a month or so and look back at both car, you should be able to get a clear view on what you really want. making a rush decision for such a big investment is so big of a failure that it is important to take time to make a decision. Remember, it's a car that will stay with you for what? at least 4 + years, if you choose something you don't like, you will have to stuck with it.

too much blahing~ i will end here~~ hope you can get soemthing out of it~

[snosk8tr123]

thanks for the great advise!

[Fester]

Originally Posted by Fraggy

Do you work in porn?

[Vinobien]

Never heard of a WRX STI. Did that replace the Legacy? WTF

[BMW0]

Bmw Forum people will tell you, you should get a Bimmer and you will be thrilled to drive one. On the other hand the all out super rally car Sti will be a life time of performance, if thats what your all about. I on the other hand enjoy my 330i's moderate performance and superb handling. Don't forget that Bimmer's come with alot of complimentary appointments too much to list.

In the end you got to ask yourself; are you for the distinguished luxury performance or the world renowned rally car. This should give you a thumbs up either way you go.