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      05-27-2015, 05:36 AM   #111
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May 21 and 24, 2015: same usual suspects:
  • M-HF5400 (no marker on front bumper)
  • M-HF5502 (red marker on front bumper)
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Would make sense if 2 manual transmission + 2 DCT
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May 21 and 24, 2015: same usual suspects:
  • M-HF5400 (no marker on front bumper)
  • M-HF5502 (red marker on front bumper)
  • M-KJ5136 (no marker on front bumper)
  • M-KJ5137 (red marker on front bumper)
Would make sense if 2 manual transmission + 2 DCT
The red box on the front bumper is a transponder for measuring lap times.
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      05-27-2015, 06:09 AM   #113
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I'm so excited to see this car on the street, wow what a car...


For all those saying the m3/4 sounds "like shit", I'm really wondering if you've heard the car in person extensively. After all of the videos and comments online, I can't explain how worried I was about the sound. After a couple hours driving in it, you realize it isn't what the videos portray. I haven't had one nay-sayer in person thus far, all have been surprised (after the brutal cold start and out of the useless efficient mode)

Having said that, I think the m2 will sound even better in person
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      05-27-2015, 06:32 AM   #114
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Was thinking to myself. Sounds good. Looks kinda good under camo. Then that 1 rolls by at the end and it reminded my self how ugly the 2 is.
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      05-27-2015, 06:39 AM   #115
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The whole car will look vastly different than the M235i,

M2 is wider front and back, front fender vents, and also a wayyyyy different front aero. Not to mention 19 inch wheels. It's going to look sweet.
Well this is a "prototype" the actual product might be different.. I do hope that your wish will come true "The whole car will look vastly different than the M235i"

I do like the wider back and 19" tire - front view still looks pretty much the same to me. Focal point for front view of a car is the headlight, I am still looking the 2 series headlight.

oh well I am still high on my new BMW (Bring More Women - someone told me in Germany..lol) so i am not too keen at looking at M2 yet.
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I'm so excited to see this car on the street, wow what a car...


For all those saying the m3/4 sounds "like shit", I'm really wondering if you've heard the car in person extensively. After all of the videos and comments online, I can't explain how worried I was about the sound. After a couple hours driving in it, you realize it isn't what the videos portray. I haven't had one nay-sayer in person thus far, all have been surprised (after the brutal cold start and out of the useless efficient mode)

Having said that, I think the m2 will sound even better in person

Totally agree. I was dead set on buying the M performance exhaust before my car even arrived. Well, 3000 miles later, I still haven't bought one. The stock sound is very interesting to me and as you said, nothing like the videos! I'm loving the raspy racing-inspired high notes on higher revs, mixed in with the deep growl down low. Very unique!

The f80 exhaust makes a lot more sense now, hearing how the M2 sounds. The worst thing M can do, is make all M cars sounds alike. That would be pretty boring!
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If the M2 can get in the 3.9sec range on a 0-60, I might bite. Otherwise, this looks like a quad exhaust with some M Performance options added in when compared to my M235i.
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I needed a good laugher this morning !


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I know they are in a different category but with the Mustang Shelby GT 350 coming in at the rumored price point of under $48k I may be rethinking my choice.
But until then, it's easier to reverse ones own opinion a few times In a public forum. . Go ahead and talk it out...

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You do realize that this has the M4's rear suspension in it, right?
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lol. Those are some inaccurate assumptions.
May I kindly ask what the buying proposition of this vehicle will be? Assuming deliveries come early next year... and the M4 is at a 10K discount or you can buy one new on Euro del for $59K...

The weight difference between this and the M3 / M4 will be minimal... BMW will not and has not disappointed in that department yet :lol So for a few K less you are getting a far subpar motor to the S55 and losing 80hp... for what? A smaller car? This thing will not beat an M3 / M4 anywhere except maybe an autox or insanely tight tracks... anyone who believes otherwise is ludicrous.
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YES, A SMALLER CAR


Have you heard of a BMW called the E30 M3 ?!

Have you heard of a BMW called the 1 Series M coupe.?!

Those are a Couple of relatively successful Small BMWs that aren't faster than an F8x.....




I don't know about you, but I am 1 million percent confident that from the moment design began, it really wasn't a goal to make this far " faster than an f8x" .

And I'm cool with that .....
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      05-27-2015, 07:33 AM   #121
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You do realize that this has the M4's rear suspension in it, right?
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lol. Those are some inaccurate assumptions.
May I kindly ask what the buying proposition of this vehicle will be? Assuming deliveries come early next year... and the M4 is at a 10K discount or you can buy one new on Euro del for $59K...

The weight difference between this and the M3 / M4 will be minimal... BMW will not and has not disappointed in that department yet :lol So for a few K less you are getting a far subpar motor to the S55 and losing 80hp... for what? A smaller car? This thing will not beat an M3 / M4 anywhere except maybe an autox or insanely tight tracks... anyone who believes otherwise is ludicrous.
Correct sir!

YES, A SMALLER CAR


Have you heard of a BMW called the E30 M3 ?!

Have you heard of a BMW called the 1 Series M coupe.?!

Those are a Couple of relatively successful Small BMWs that aren't faster than an F8x.....




I don't know about you, but I am 1 million percent confident that from the moment design began, it really wasn't a goal to make this far " faster than an f8x" .

And I'm cool with that .....
Cool... but for the 600th time, no matter how small it is, if the weight is similar or 100lbs different, you arent gaining anything...
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You do realize that this has the M4's rear suspension in it, right?
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lol. Those are some inaccurate assumptions.
May I kindly ask what the buying proposition of this vehicle will be? Assuming deliveries come early next year... and the M4 is at a 10K discount or you can buy one new on Euro del for $59K...

The weight difference between this and the M3 / M4 will be minimal... BMW will not and has not disappointed in that department yet :lol So for a few K less you are getting a far subpar motor to the S55 and losing 80hp... for what? A smaller car? This thing will not beat an M3 / M4 anywhere except maybe an autox or insanely tight tracks... anyone who believes otherwise is ludicrous.
Correct sir!

YES, A SMALLER CAR


Have you heard of a BMW called the E30 M3 ?!

Have you heard of a BMW called the 1 Series M coupe.?!

Those are a Couple of relatively successful Small BMWs that aren't faster than an F8x.....




I don't know about you, but I am 1 million percent confident that from the moment design began, it really wasn't a goal to make this far " faster than an f8x" .

And I'm cool with that .....
Cool... but for the 600th time, no matter how small it is, if the weight is similar or 100lbs different, you arent gaining anything...

Agree. Hence, No for sale sign on my 1M. And for the record, if you're thinking it's gonna take a lot to get an M2 down to 1M fighting weight .... I agree
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      05-27-2015, 07:49 AM   #123
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Was thinking to myself. Sounds good. Looks kinda good under camo. Then that 1 rolls by at the end and it reminded my self how ugly the 2 is.
? The 2 is 1000 times more attractive than the baby face 1 series.
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      05-27-2015, 07:55 AM   #124
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Where is IEDEI when you need him lol?
Lol IEDEI would flip out... And rightfully so. That comment is so ridiculous. M2 is not an M235i with M performance parts. I'd laugh if someone told me the M3 is a 335 with M parts. Hey I guess whatever floats your boat but calling the M2 an M235i with quad exhaust is funny
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      05-27-2015, 08:07 AM   #125
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car will be really cool. i'm fan based on this video however accurate or inaccurate it may be. the sound reminds me of a toned own GTR but maybe i'm mis-remembering. i think it does sound better than the M3/M4. at normal/moderate speeds the M3 is so-so. at high RPMs ripping around the track, i thought it sounded quite nice and i had the GoPro external mic near the exhuast, not by the speaker

that said - i didn't buy the M3 for the freakin' exhaust sound, it's incredible in so many ways. i think the M2 is promising and as long as it's slightly better than the m235i it'll be worth the extra cash. wider hips, more power, better suspension, much sportier and more aggressive looking both inside and out. nice. i'd order one if i could wait a year+... i don't think i want one of the first ones to come out off the assembly line...
LOL!! Whenever I hear someone say they didn't buy the M3 for the exhaust sound, it just emphasize how disappointed they are that the car didn't sound better. The fact is, the M3 is a fantastic driving machine, just imagine how much more desirable it would have been if BMW had put more effort in making the damn car sound proper. It's probably the only high performance car that have at least half of its fans complain about the sound
I was going to get defensive but then I realized you're right... what made the exhaust much better, albeit louder, for me was the "golf tee"mod

back on topic ... let's hope the m2 gets a good exhaust to counter all the n55 hate lol
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Was thinking to myself. Sounds good. Looks kinda good under camo. Then that 1 rolls by at the end and it reminded my self how ugly the 2 is.
? The 2 is 1000 times more attractive than the baby face 1 series.
Agreed the 2 wins on the front bumper. The 2 has some horrible headlights, side profile, and ass tho. The 1 wins there.

- ps both our opinions are biased tho. Not trying to get in a flaming war. I like the 2. Almost got one when they came out. Still might. Maybe a M2. But will have to see what's under the camo. Would look good next to the 1.
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You do realize that this has the M4's rear suspension in it, right?
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lol. Those are some inaccurate assumptions.
May I kindly ask what the buying proposition of this vehicle will be? Assuming deliveries come early next year... and the M4 is at a 10K discount or you can buy one new on Euro del for $59K...

The weight difference between this and the M3 / M4 will be minimal... BMW will not and has not disappointed in that department yet :lol So for a few K less you are getting a far subpar motor to the S55 and losing 80hp... for what? A smaller car? This thing will not beat an M3 / M4 anywhere except maybe an autox or insanely tight tracks... anyone who believes otherwise is ludicrous.
Correct sir!

YES, A SMALLER CAR


Have you heard of a BMW called the E30 M3 ?!

Have you heard of a BMW called the 1 Series M coupe.?!

Those are a Couple of relatively successful Small BMWs that aren't faster than an F8x.....




I don't know about you, but I am 1 million percent confident that from the moment design began, it really wasn't a goal to make this far " faster than an f8x" .

And I'm cool with that .....
Cool... but for the 600th time, no matter how small it is, if the weight is similar or 100lbs different, you arent gaining anything...
Some drivers prefer their sporty car to not be sized like an E39 M5. They are gaining something when they drive a smaller car because they prefer it.
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1 series owner calling the 2 ugly.. Pot, meet kettle.
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The only thing so far about the M2 is when it has that Camo, The hips on it looks so bolted on like it was just added to the car nothing else was done for it to look smooth. Cant wait until the camo comes of to see how they refined the lines along the whole car. Just hope it won't look like a 2 series trapped in a larger body.
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Cool... but for the 600th time, no matter how small it is, if the weight is similar or 100lbs different, you arent gaining anything...

Gaining nothing?

Well, let me explain it.

I come from the BMW E30. Have driven it some years, swapped a m52b28 (E36 328i engine), years later swapped a s54b32 CSL engine and loved the whole car because of its size.

Two years ago I have been at the ring with my E30 and I parked the car in front of a E92 M3 and I realized, that modern cars are to big to make that fun that the E30 made. Perhaps in the US it doesn't matter because of the big streets you have there but in europe? Do you think its fun to drive a truck sized M4 on the small pass roads in the alps? It doesn't make fun because its huge. Try a E30 M3 / E36 M3 and also a E46 M3 on the same road and they feel amazing because the size fits! Some famous german car magazines like the SPORTAUTO tell the same thing, again and again. The M4 is a great car, but it isn't build for small, lovely roads. And an M has to be build for this roads (my opinion).

I can say I have been waiting years for a car like the BMW M2. The 1M Coupe came to the wrong time for me (because of studying etc.) but now ... I know I will love the M2.
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Cool... but for the 600th time, no matter how small it is, if the weight is similar or 100lbs different, you arent gaining anything...

Gaining nothing?

Well, let me explain it.

I come from the BMW E30. Have driven it some years, swapped a m52b28 (E36 328i engine), years later swapped a s54b32 CSL engine and loved the whole car because of its size.

Two years ago I have been at the ring with my E30 and I parked the car in front of a E92 M3 and I realized, that modern cars are to big to make that fun that the E30 made. Perhaps in the US it doesn't matter because of the big streets you have there but in europe? Do you think its fun to drive a truck sized M4 on the small pass roads in the alps? It doesn't make fun because its huge. Try a E30 M3 / E36 M3 and also a E46 M3 on the same road and they feel amazing because the size fits! Some famous german car magazines like the SPORTAUTO tell the same thing, again and again. The M4 is a great car, but it isn't build for small, lovely roads. And an M has to be build for this roads (my opinion).

I can say I have been waiting years for a car like the BMW M2. The 1M Coupe came to the wrong time for me (because of studying etc.) but now ... I know I will love the M2.
There is a 12 inch difference in length between an M235i and an M4, if to you that makes the M4 a truck... then
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