BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW M5 F90 (2018+) General Forums F90 M5 General Forum    2020 EU M5C quieter and no crackles

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-27-2019, 04:10 AM   #45
Mightyhoof
Private
19
Rep
68
Posts

Drives: BMW M5 COMP
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Slovenia

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2019 BMW M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by M135iXdriver View Post
The more I hear the ID7 the more it sounds as if the downpipe broke... you hear the sound... but it does not sound as if it's coming from the exhaust... sounds distant... as if it were a car next to this one...
Unofficial info is that this was done via ECU not mechanically
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 04:14 AM   #46
M135iXdriver
First Lieutenant
M135iXdriver's Avatar
Switzerland
201
Rep
327
Posts

Drives: BMW M5 Competiton
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Northwestern Switzerland veeeeery close to the German Autobahn

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mightyhoof View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by M135iXdriver View Post
The more I hear the ID7 the more it sounds as if the downpipe broke... you hear the sound... but it does not sound as if it's coming from the exhaust... sounds distant... as if it were a car next to this one...
Unofficial info is that this was done via ECU not mechanically
Just describing my perception.
__________________
2019 - BMW M5C MY2019 (Individual Urban Green)
2016 - VW Passat B8 2.0 TSI (276 bhp) R-Line (sold)
2013 - BMW M135i xDrive 3.0 (316 bhp) (sold)
2010 - Mazda 3 MPS BL 2.3 (256 bhp) (sold)
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 04:35 AM   #47
JOHNBMWM5
Live for today tomorrow never comes
JOHNBMWM5's Avatar
United Kingdom
2000
Rep
9,502
Posts

Drives: 2023 LCI Marina Bay Blue/ Smok
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Br0adSw0rd View Post
Hey Nikolov, would you mind posting a sound clip? I presume slip on = axle back exhaust? I've recently picked up a 2020 M5C and trying to work out my options on exhausts.. based in EU so missing the cracks and pops. I wouldn't void my warranty to get these back but think the exhaust could be a bit more beefy. My only options are a axle back unit like Akrapovic / Remus etc and no sounds clips out there for axle back 2020 models! Cheers..
Some of the owners have had these fitted and got a CEL, then when taken into the dealership, they have been told to remove it before they will look at it, be warned.That's in the UK.
__________________
Live for now, life is too short.
2023 LCI M5 Marina Bay Blue/ Smoked White Leather, the very last of the F90 M5.
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 04:44 AM   #48
Br0adSw0rd
New Member
0
Rep
15
Posts

Drives: M5 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5 View Post
Some of the owners have had these fitted and got a CEL, then when taken into the dealership, they have been told to remove it before they will look at it, be warned.That's in the UK.
Ok cheers John. I thought that was the full system (I.e. cat back) not just the back box? If that's the case then very annoying as its means I can't make any changes to the exhaust!
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 05:20 AM   #49
Nikolov
Lieutenant
239
Rep
473
Posts

Drives: '19 F90 M5C, '17 911 TTS
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Br0adSw0rd View Post
Hey Nikolov, would you mind posting a sound clip? I presume slip on = axle back exhaust? I've recently picked up a 2020 M5C and trying to work out my options on exhausts.. based in EU so missing the cracks and pops. I wouldn't void my warranty to get these back but think the exhaust could be a bit more beefy. My only options are a axle back unit like Akrapovic / Remus etc and no sounds clips out there for axle back 2020 models! Cheers..
Correct slip on = axle back. I will post some clips once I have it installed. I think it was supposed to ship tomorrow, 1 or 2 weeks delivery time, so it will take some time.
__________________
Snapper Rocks Blue on Tartufo leather | All options except Homelink and tow hitch
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 05:20 AM   #50
Nikolov
Lieutenant
239
Rep
473
Posts

Drives: '19 F90 M5C, '17 911 TTS
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Br0adSw0rd View Post
Ok cheers John. I thought that was the full system (I.e. cat back) not just the back box? If that's the case then very annoying as its means I can't make any changes to the exhaust!
Unlikely that you get a CEL from just the axle back. You'd definitely get a CEL if you install the X pipe on an OPF car, Akrapovic even say so on their website.
__________________
Snapper Rocks Blue on Tartufo leather | All options except Homelink and tow hitch
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 05:22 AM   #51
Br0adSw0rd
New Member
0
Rep
15
Posts

Drives: M5 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikolov View Post
Correct slip on = axle back. I will post some clips once I have it installed. I think it was supposed to ship tomorrow, 1 or 2 weeks delivery time, so it will take some time.
Ok cheers Nikolov..
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 06:04 AM   #52
JOHNBMWM5
Live for today tomorrow never comes
JOHNBMWM5's Avatar
United Kingdom
2000
Rep
9,502
Posts

Drives: 2023 LCI Marina Bay Blue/ Smok
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Br0adSw0rd View Post
Ok cheers John. I thought that was the full system (I.e. cat back) not just the back box? If that's the case then very annoying as its means I can't make any changes to the exhaust!
Read through this thread.
https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...e-hope.218303/
__________________
Live for now, life is too short.
2023 LCI M5 Marina Bay Blue/ Smoked White Leather, the very last of the F90 M5.
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 10:32 AM   #53
limeypride
Brigadier General
limeypride's Avatar
United_States
4429
Rep
4,109
Posts

Drives: 2022 M8 Competition GC
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Orlando area, FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mightyhoof View Post
Like i posted in other thread.....

The car i had in test drive was ID6


And this is the car with ID7 as are all cars AFTER 1.7.2019


And yes BOTH are competition both were in SPORT PLUS and filmed with the same camera. Waiting for BMW to see how we can resolve the issue as none of the BMW dealers had a clue that BMW changed the sound with ID7
You're saying all cars with iDrive 7 but you mean just in most of Europe, right?
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 10:45 AM   #54
M135iXdriver
First Lieutenant
M135iXdriver's Avatar
Switzerland
201
Rep
327
Posts

Drives: BMW M5 Competiton
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Northwestern Switzerland veeeeery close to the German Autobahn

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by limeypride View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mightyhoof View Post
Like i posted in other thread.....

The car i had in test drive was ID6


And this is the car with ID7 as are all cars AFTER 1.7.2019


And yes BOTH are competition both were in SPORT PLUS and filmed with the same camera. Waiting for BMW to see how we can resolve the issue as none of the BMW dealers had a clue that BMW changed the sound with ID7
You're saying all cars with iDrive 7 but you mean just in most of Europe, right?
That's how it is, ID7 new sound only EU and Switzerland are affected.
__________________
2019 - BMW M5C MY2019 (Individual Urban Green)
2016 - VW Passat B8 2.0 TSI (276 bhp) R-Line (sold)
2013 - BMW M135i xDrive 3.0 (316 bhp) (sold)
2010 - Mazda 3 MPS BL 2.3 (256 bhp) (sold)
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 01:33 PM   #55
Slayerkillhate
Private First Class
Ukraine
67
Rep
141
Posts

Drives: M8
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: UA

iTrader: (0)

Any solution to make it sound like car with ID6 on video?
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 01:54 PM   #56
Mightyhoof
Private
19
Rep
68
Posts

Drives: BMW M5 COMP
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Slovenia

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2019 BMW M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayerkillhate View Post
Any solution to make it sound like car with ID6 on video?
Well that is THE question......Currently nobody knows what exactly they changed
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 02:54 PM   #57
Simon H
Major
Simon H's Avatar
876
Rep
1,319
Posts

Drives: M5 Competition
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Whats even more interesting/annoying, is that ive heard that UK cars, even fitted with OPFs, and have had some pops and bangs, have gone in for service, and come out even quieter than when they went in. I dont know if this is 100% true, but if BMW are downloading a new map so to speak to meet new noise/emission regs etc, how annoying is that ?, and is it even legal ?, taking away what most folks deem to be their favourite part of the experience ?. All getting a bit murky indeed, you cant seem to have anything these days, all a bit sad really ???
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 03:46 PM   #58
luca09
Enlisted Member
4
Rep
43
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon H View Post
Whats even more interesting/annoying, is that ive heard that UK cars, even fitted with OPFs, and have had some pops and bangs, have gone in for service, and come out even quieter than when they went in. I dont know if this is 100% true, but if BMW are downloading a new map so to speak to meet new noise/emission regs etc, how annoying is that ?, and is it even legal ?, taking away what most folks deem to be their favourite part of the experience ?. All getting a bit murky indeed, you cant seem to have anything these days, all a bit sad really ???
More likely the opposite.. Take a look at the m5 update thread.


„Ok,i just did software update.
Car is different,exhaust sound is fruittier,and volume is deeper."
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2019, 02:35 AM   #59
Simon H
Major
Simon H's Avatar
876
Rep
1,319
Posts

Drives: M5 Competition
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by luca09 View Post
More likely the opposite.. Take a look at the m5 update thread.


„Ok,i just did software update.
Car is different,exhaust sound is fruittier,and volume is deeper."
Thats different to what ive heard, its difficult to know exactly what is reality here ??.
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2019, 03:43 AM   #60
JOHNBMWM5
Live for today tomorrow never comes
JOHNBMWM5's Avatar
United Kingdom
2000
Rep
9,502
Posts

Drives: 2023 LCI Marina Bay Blue/ Smok
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon H View Post
Thats different to what ive heard, its difficult to know exactly what is reality here ??.
Not looking good for the new M3/4 with this new legislation, all cars are getting this, makes me think this could be my last "M".
__________________
Live for now, life is too short.
2023 LCI M5 Marina Bay Blue/ Smoked White Leather, the very last of the F90 M5.
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2019, 09:02 AM   #61
UC
New Member
3
Rep
9
Posts

Drives: F90
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

I just got my 2020 non comp back after running in service. The sound is exactly the same, no difference for me. Still no sign of a crack or pop unfortunately.
Appreciate 0
      10-29-2019, 11:01 AM   #62
Hockeytyme
Captain
Hockeytyme's Avatar
576
Rep
754
Posts

Drives: 2020 M5C
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Orange County, CA.

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants View Post
I'd be quite happy to lose the pops and bangs myself.
In the minority it seems though.
I'm with ya.. I prefer a deep/throaty header sound if anything

Having said that. My 2020 doesn't pop.. it does burble some though but not enough to really bother me. But then again I haven't put exhaust and DP's on it yet
__________________
DME: 1848 DA 0-60 2.42 -- 1/8 Mile 6.38 -- 1/4 Mile 9.89 -- 60-130 5.91
Evolve: 1418 DA 0-60 2.48 -- 1/8 Mile 6.47 -- 1/4 Mile 10.05 -- 60-130 6.48
JB4: 1096 DA 0-60 2.54 -- 1/8 Mile 6.50 -- 1/4 Mile 10.05 -- 60-130 6.18
IG: @hockeytyme All runs on street with no prep on 21 inch wheels and PS4S tires
Appreciate 0
      10-29-2019, 07:54 PM   #63
Br0adSw0rd
New Member
0
Rep
15
Posts

Drives: M5 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeytyme View Post
I'm with ya.. I prefer a deep/throaty header sound if anything

Having said that. My 2020 doesn't pop.. it does burble some though but not enough to really bother me. But then again I haven't put exhaust and DP's on it yet
I must admit.. I'm also not really fussed by the pops and bangs. I'm with you on the deep/throaty sound. That's all I really want... Unfortunately for me (and us EU guys) we're f*(ked. We can't even change the exhaust without the dash lighting up like a Xmas tree!
Appreciate 0
      10-29-2019, 07:58 PM   #64
Br0adSw0rd
New Member
0
Rep
15
Posts

Drives: M5 Competition
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5 View Post
Thanks John.. very depressing... I'm tempted to see if you can open up the rear box and replace the pipes with solid ones like I did on my M3..!
Appreciate 0
      10-30-2019, 03:36 AM   #65
Nikolov
Lieutenant
239
Rep
473
Posts

Drives: '19 F90 M5C, '17 911 TTS
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria

iTrader: (0)

I had my Akrapovic axle back installed yesterday. No CEL or any error lights so far and to be honest I'm not expecting to have any. The only reason why you'd get a CEL from an axle back is if you don't connect the valve lines.

Initial impressions are the exhaust has a throatier sound at low rpm and the pops are a bit more pronounced (my car already had the burble and pops). Sound will probably improve after a few hundred miles on it. I'll try to get a proper external GoPro mic with a windguard, before I make a video.
__________________
Snapper Rocks Blue on Tartufo leather | All options except Homelink and tow hitch
Appreciate 0
      10-30-2019, 10:16 AM   #66
F90M5C
First Lieutenant
F90M5C's Avatar
Sweden
155
Rep
317
Posts

Drives: 19 F90 M5C,17 F82 ZCP M4
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikolov View Post
The only reason why you'd get a CEL from an axle back is if you don't connect the valve lines.

.
if you mean the flaps then that is not true,mine were disconnected at delivery by BMW on my request and never caused a CEL. it has some kind of errors(flaps malfunction/disconnected) that can be seen when plugged in by dealer but never CEL.
i did have CEL and limp mode cause i removed the OPF and then had to reinstall them to get rid of it .almost 7k+ miles with only the flaps disconnected now and no CEL so far
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:25 PM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST