12-17-2016, 03:55 PM | #23 |
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Exactly. New E63 4matic has this so I'd be surprised if the new M5 didn't. I think it's a great idea. If you want a lightweight sports car buy something else like a GT3.
Next if they added a lightweight mild hybrid touring option the next generation you'd have all the car you could ever wish for; very powerful, practical, good in all weather, ability to drift and then efficient in the daily grind that is slow moving traffic. |
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12-17-2016, 03:59 PM | #24 |
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AWD is simply a must for optimum power and torque utilization, provided that the weight and parasitic losses can be kept low. Being an M car which goes from RWD to AWD for the first time, I expect the M division to put some extra effort in designing a light AWD system.
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12-17-2016, 05:31 PM | #25 |
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I'll be interested if this true. Even with snow tires I could not get up my driveway in the F10 M5 with any amount of fresh snow. Had to swap out of the F10 for a X5M. My experience was that on flat ground snow tires were fine but if you encountered a hill, you would need studded tires in the M5 to be sure of getting where you wanted to go.
Now that I have a X5M I realize how careful I had to be with the M5 or the traction control would intervene. With the X5M I almost never activate the traction control - push the pedal and it just goes. BTW I put snow tires on the X5M too - i would not be able to get up the driveway without at least all seasons even with AWD. Yes there is a weight penalty but we're not talking about a stripped down track car in any iteration. |
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12-17-2016, 05:59 PM | #26 |
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if BMW manages to keep the weight increase to about 50kg or 100 lbs, the AWD, if it's rear drive biased with torque vectoring can only help with traction with all that turbocharged hp and torque!
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12-17-2016, 11:06 PM | #29 |
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I would get that AWD/RWD
1. The G-series already shaved of 100kgs.so the ratio of weight saving should be proportional to to-be announced M5. 2. Better tuner engine with twin-turbo and nice torque line. With this beast of power the RWD may be able to handle it but AWD should give better steer and grip. I would take that. 3. Don't know how switching works but it does sound like win for RWD lovers as well. Stop whining about 100lb extras. This is already offset by weight savings, better engine, newer least drag coefficient body, technology upgrades etc.
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The F10M already struggles for grip with Michelin PSS on dry pavement.
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Seems like it's going to be an automatic no DCT disappointing if true. Why they couldn't develop a new DCT like Porsche did with their Panamera I don't know. They went cheapskate !
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Those of us that have owned E60 M5's appreciated the option of power. Usually used in rain, snow. Having the option of 4WD in the same manner would be nice, this time for rain, snow and better accel.
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This is very cool and innovative. Hope it happens and comes to non-ms
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All this complaint about AWD and performance and weight but the GTR comes to mind and the developer said for any non race car driver 4000 is the best balance. This was to reference about a lot of critics complain about the gtr's weight
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Basically flip the switch for burnouts.
Otherwise keep it in AWD. Nothing says fun like stomping the throttle from a red light in the rain on an uphill like AWD and a V8 motor. |
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But even then, the lightest V8 BMW is the M6 Coupe and that is 4250lbs so still some distance away from the 4000lbs mentioned. |
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