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      12-14-2015, 09:02 AM   #221
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      12-14-2015, 10:46 AM   #222
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So now the FBI is saying both had been radicalized for some time, but in the same breath say they don't know how or for how long.

How do you know they'd been radicalized for some time, if you don't know how long???


I might keep that tinfoil fitting apt. tomorrow.
Part of me suspects that the FBI knew about these people for some time and were tracking them in order to catch a "bigger fish", but then they went ahead and shot up an office on a whim.

I say it was on a whim since they had pipe bombs in the house they never used so it looks like they were planning on something bigger.

I base this conclusion on absolutely nothing.
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      12-14-2015, 11:19 AM   #223
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Part of me suspects that the FBI knew about these people for some time and were tracking them in order to catch a "bigger fish", but then they went ahead and shot up an office on a whim.

I say it was on a whim since they had pipe bombs in the house they never used so it looks like they were planning on something bigger.

I base this conclusion on absolutely nothing.
I think the two dummies thought they might get away with it,that they had enough time to leave the country . Drive to Mexico otherwise the nearest mall would've been their next stop.

Also the pipe bombs they left at the conference room didn't go off.
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      12-14-2015, 03:29 PM   #224
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We need the federal database to also include psychological problems as well as felonies and to require psychiatrists to report dangerous conditions. They resist this with Democrat support citing people will be hesitant to get help if they do. Total bs. If this list is only accessible by law enforcement and licensed dealers , and dealers only get a yes or no answer, not why, then to bad, get it done. The fear the Democrats have is it will be accessed for other reasons. Jobs, housing, etc. Just make that illegal. Problem solved. Until we do this look for crazies to continue their senseless rampages.
I'm all for stopping crazy people from getting guns - who wouldn't be? But - who gets to decide?

- if you take anti-depressants, this could be a reason used to deny you gun ownership.

- if you want a gun for defense, this could be interpreted as being paranoia, and used to deny you gun ownership.

Obviously these examples would not make sense to people to deny a gun purchase, but that hasn't stopped the government from hundreds of other senseless actions - unfortunately I wouldn't trust them with any erosion of 2nd amendment rights.
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      12-14-2015, 04:31 PM   #225
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Part of me suspects that the FBI knew about these people for some time and were tracking them in order to catch a "bigger fish", but then they went ahead and shot up an office on a whim.
But in the same press conferences, they repeatedly said they weren't on anyone's radar. So either the FBI is lying, or stupid. There may be a distinct possibility they are stupid about lying, or maybe they are just lying AND stupid
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