05-06-2024, 09:29 PM | #1 |
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I'm a long time bmw owner, but never a SUV. Currently an E61 wagon & e90 M3. Replacing the wagon with the X3. I've been trying to find a CPO X3 with the premium & parking asst pgk's. Very hard, with the colors I'm looking for. White on black. Now I'm looking into a new one, yikes. And I've only got about 2 months before they stop building the 24's. Haven't had a car with RFT before. How many miles do they typically last on these heavy vehicles? Does anybody put "regular" tires on instead? If so, do you carry an inflation device ? Are you all happy with the RFT's ? I've noticed that whenever I turn on the air controls, the AC is automatically defaulted on. Is there a way to turn that off, so I can turn it when I want to, not all the time. Thanks for the help |
05-06-2024, 10:42 PM | #2 |
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I have an X3 M40i with adaptive M suspension and 19” RFT.
It is a comfortable ride here in the Bay Area.
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05-07-2024, 12:05 AM | #3 | |
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There will be some people stating their tyres lasted >50k km, on the other hand for some people it's only 25. Driving style, roads, load (weight) are very different. I presume you don't change to winter tyres. Rotate regularly, the xDrive doesn't like more than 2mm of tread depth difference. Yes, some people do. Non-RFT are somewhat cheaper, they say softer and they say tyres last longer (I didn't get the reason why). Be careful, with RFT you won't get a spare wheel (and tool kit!). No, side cut cannot be repaired with any kind of spray. Yes, "inflation device" (i.e. 12V compressor) is provided. Lastly, some rim options are available with RFT, some only with non-RFT. Rims are critical, since a new set costs like $4500. Although I have no direct experience with non-RFT, I am happy. The wizardry can be solved by inflating tyres to less than recommended (which is about 3 bar). Ridiculous tyre pressures are because of (at least EU) homologation rules. They can't homologate with "eco" and then recommend 0.5 bar less. Is it possible to keep the ventilation always on? I use off position sometimes, tbh I didn't notice if A/C LED is on when back to ventilation. I use A/C all year long (well, the LED indicator says nothing about whether the compressor is engaged or not, because "savvy" people turned A/C on only twice a year which seized the compressor). Next, "modern cars" are not designed to work without ventilation + A/C on (from my XP). Idk why but the windshield get misted very quickly, even at mild warm days, not only during rain/cold. |
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05-07-2024, 04:05 AM | #4 |
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Never seen 3bar pressure, my 40i (Germany) has 2.2 front and rear! It is clearly visible on B pillar sticker. iDrive does indeed recommend 2.5/2.7 but i trust the sticker.
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I run Continental Sport Contact 6 (non RFT) with a pressure of 2.2 bar front and rear. When I look at the tires, I think they will last about 25k in my case. I don't drive them until they no longer have any profile, but rather change them when they are just below the mark, so there is no danger of aquaplanning. |
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05-07-2024, 04:55 AM | #6 |
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Mine have just been replaced at 17k miles. The rears, which I thought were close, were actually 1.0mm (isn't it funny how in the UK we use both metric and imperial :-|) when the limit is 1.6mm in UK. That was a shock (I had been checking but clearly in the wrong place). The fronts were on about 3mm but they replaced them also due to outer edge excessive wear.
These were the stock M40 RF Alenza 21" (it's a lease car so the bar-stewards replace with like :-/). I am not a sedate driver. |
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05-07-2024, 06:17 AM | #7 | |
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There are people who damaged their tread and when you forced them to check (inacuratelly at the petrol station) their pressure, that was like 1.0 bar... |
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05-07-2024, 07:44 AM | #9 |
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Stock RFT seems to last ~20k miles on average.
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Anecdotal information here and some consumer reviews on Tire Rack seem to support that the 19" Bridgestone Dueler RFT are more comfortable than the 20" Bridgestone Alenza RFT. This may be a combination of tire sidewall height as well as the design of the two tires. I find our 19" Duelers surprisingly comfortable even while providing good responsive steering and handling.
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05-07-2024, 08:48 AM | #11 |
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Get rid of the run flats. I dumped those things within a week of getting mine. I couldn't stand the weighted vague steering and harsh ride. No matter what improvements they make the RFT will always have a harsher ride because thats how they work. They have to have a stiff enough sidewall to keep the wheel rolling even with no air.
I went with Michelin PS4 AS that should last 40+ K miles. Buy yourself a green slime inflator kits built for SUV's and trucks and keep it in your trunk. |
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05-08-2024, 06:56 AM | #12 | |
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An OEM spare can be ordered on a custom order but it does raise the floor of the trunk by a bit but don't know by how much. |
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An OEM spare can be ordered on a custom order but it does raise the floor of the trunk by a bit but don't know by how much.[/QUOTE]
~3-4 inches. A small price to pay to have the insurance of a spare tire in case of a flat. Last edited by Spacecoast; 05-08-2024 at 10:52 PM.. |
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Indeed, I have the spare tire option and all this luggage fit...with the rear seats up.
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Our prior '20 X3 M40i had the 19" Bridgestone Alenza RFT summer tires. They were good for about 15k miles max. I replaced them with Alenza non RFT summer tires that were on sale at Tire Rack. Ride comfort improved noticeably. I carry a small compressor and a tire repair kit, along with a small jack in case I need to lift the tire to get to the puncture (never had to use it but have used it on prior cars). Won't help with sidewall damage. My son has the car now. We replaced it with a '24 X3 M40i and ordered the compact spare tire with the raised floor (still carry a compressor and plug kit just in case). Reduction in luggage space is acceptable.
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Interesting. Check out this comparison from Tire Rack...same 19" size, both Bridgestone, both RFT, one Dueler and one Alenza. Look at the difference in the scores, especially for comfort and treadware! The Alenzas do nothing as well or better, are more expensive, and far less often recommended, questioning why they even exist?
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Possibly, I don't know, but is an H rating of 130mph (206 kph) a factor for anyone in the U.S. or most in Europe?
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Recommendation: front: 2.8 bar; rear: 2.9 bar. Ambient temp. 10°C After a ride: Quote:
1. Switch A/C off 2. Keep pressing "-" until the ventilation is shutdown 3. Press "+" to switch it on 4. A/C LED indicator remains in off state. https://youtube.com/shorts/CSl22cP40bo?feature=share Last edited by bouchy; 05-09-2024 at 11:10 PM.. |
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I wouldn't have bought the Alenzas again but for the fact that they were on clearance for the price of two tires. BMW raises the speed limiter in the M40i to 155 mph only with the summer tires that are rated for such speeds (the Alenzas when I ordered the car).
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