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Mods and Warranty Work?
How has everyone's experience been with mods and service/warranty work? Primarily bolt-ons like intakes, downpipes, etc.
Honestly don't know if I ever plan to really have the thing tuned but I'm really wanting to get an intake and change out either the primary or secondary or both sets of dp's purely just for the sound because this car from factory (in my opinion) just does not sound aggressive enough. I'm only asking because obviously no dealer wants to do warranty work because they're not really making any money on it but I've heard of dealer's pretty much trying to blame anything and everything they can on downpipes and idk how I feel about this car still being a BMW and something randomly going wrong and they decide they want to blame the dp's even if they aren't the cause and having to shell our that $$$ |
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The most accurate answer to your question would come from the dealership where you plan to have your car serviced. I would get it in writing. It really does not matter what someone told you here. |
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You’re right, they do. Some dealerships claim they only get costs for some of it though. But I think the dealers find a way to make profit on everything they do no matter what. “The most accurate answer to your question would come from the dealership where you plan to have your car serviced. I would get it in writing.” ^ THIS. I get that he wants to get a general pulse of what they do, but at the end of the day, the only that matter is if your dealer will.
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If you were to ask and get it from anybody....who would you ask? Service Manager? GM? |
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Depends how busy the dealership is, if they have nothing they'll kiss your feet for a big warranty job, otherwise? They'll tell you to come back in 3 months in hopes you've gone to bother someone else😂 (how I get a lot of my warranty customers and I don't mind since our labor rates aren't that much higher than what the warranty pays us anyway so I'm happy to get quantity since we all know a 3 hour book job really takes 30-40 minutes to someone that knows what they're doing and has done it 30 million times) |
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As everyone here says, you’ve got to pay to play. You may very well never have an issue, but if you do, the possibility will always exist that your warranty may not be honored.
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Best part was I could've taken the pan off the transmission and fixed the problem for... 150$ in parts? But I was like nah let's get a new transmission. They literally were like idk how the fk you got a new transmission since the car is like 13 years old and has 149k miles on it under warranty, the dealer had never even heard of this until then and I kinda felt bad for the lady I bought the car from since she took it to ANOTHER dealer that didn't know about this warranty either...
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There are a few that you can bribe or don't really care or say if they're your friends cousins uncles son they'll hook you up but it's far and in-between because not disclosing mods like I said would be fraud from that perspective and I'm 70% sure bmw doesn't pay for stuff out of pocket for warranty work and it goes through their insurance so you have a wonderful case of insurance fraud and theft of services to name a few (I believe you said you're a lawyer so I'm sure you know better than I do the kind of shit you could possibly get into) is that really worth risking that and or losing your job to help a random stranger because they want to first and foremost break federal and or state laws by tampering with emissions control devices?
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I’d very much want to do evolve intakes myself but I would hate to have something go wrong with the engine and BMW decline warranty work because of that. It’s no secret that any company or manufacture, will attempt to get out of having to pay for something if they can. I just don’t know if intakes will do that or not. I have heard horror stories about downpipes and of course everyone knows a tune instantly eviscerates your warranty.
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Just for a funny haha. I'm in Florida so emissions laws/regulations don't really exist here and only the d*ckiest cops, will give you tickets for exhaust. Only have 1 buddy I know of who got one, Catless dp's on a 340i. Cop is a state trooper who lives in my town who's just known to be a dick and hand out tickets left and right....weird part is. He owns a newer ZL1 |
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OP, the “mod” game is “pay to play” as there are zero guarantees regarding possible outcomes and what may or may not be covered.
If something goes wrong it is BMW NA who will be asking for supporting documentation from your dealer for the warranty claim to be approved. I would be hard-pressed to find a dealer willing to put anything in writing that could lead to money coming out of their own pocket. Things were not always this way but the days of “easy” approvals from NA became extinct during the F10 M5 era where many a tune lead to blown engines and denied warranty coverages. Saw this 1st hand with several M5 owners in South Florida. I have always been of the school that anything entering your engine (intake) is riskier than anything exiting it (dps) in terms of damage the respective products can cause. While not likely, aftermarket intakes can permit dirt and debris into your engine which could lead to damage. Water can also enter your engine causing hydrolock. Air roll issues can also create problems with F:A ratio which can lead to problems. Are these scenarios likely? Probably not. Can they happen? Yes. What is certain is if you find yourself with a serious issue, be prepared to pay. Plain and simple as your chances of BMW giving you a pass are slim to none.
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