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      08-12-2021, 09:01 AM   #155
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What does the coding usually cost to have done? This is a great mod that I'm seriously considering to do. I had a loaner '21 recently and it had the LCI and I loved it!
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Why? you don't see the welcome lights anyway? Or do you unlock your car before you get to it? I would imagine 99% of us with comfort access just walk up to the door and open it.
I want my welcome lights to work. I've gotten used to them and I want the car to light walk up to it and/or I touch the handle. No brainer for me

1) Euro lights and everything works as designed with an amber blinker

2) US lights with no welcome lights or errors if left on.

I'll take #2 and the amber blinker for $1,100 Alex.
Totally get that. But That didn't answer the question. Do you use your key fob to unlock your car every time you walk up to it? Or do you just grab the handle.

That should be the only question that should matters to which one you want.
I walk up, but I don't think that is the only question that needs to be addressed on deciding which to buy. The Euro lights are fully functional, no? The US lights are not at the moment. I get that the Euro lights working 100% is newer information that was not available to others, but now that we know, as someone who put my order in yesterday, what's the reasoning for going for the US lights over the Euro? The Amber blinkers?
I mean they are illegal. That may matter to someone. Again I get your point. I would have bought them if they were in stock. But the US lights were and ar the best price through getbmwparts. I agree though, wish they didn't have the welcome lights issue. Maybe it'll get fixed one day.

Plus not having to run wiring all over is a con to consider for the euro.
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I mean they are illegal. That may matter to someone. Again I get your point. I would have bought them if they were in stock. But the US lights were and ar the best price through getbmwparts. I agree though, wish they didn't have the welcome lights issue. Maybe it'll get fixed one day.

Plus not having to run wiring all over is a con to consider for the euro.
Fair enough and I am not arguing or getting defensive just so you know. It's good information to help others decide. This is just my point of view. On stock, I originally ordered the US lights from getbmwparts but they informed me that it was going to be at least two months. This was a few weeks ago, so I cancelled, which in hindsight was a good thing as Vic told me to get the Euros. The Euros are only two weeks out currently. In terms of cost, $1,000 for the US plus tax, $1100 for Euro, no tax, so it is a wash.

I get the illegal factor of the amber, which is ironic as it was not long ago blinkers HAD to be amber in the US and E38/E39 owners went to great lengths to remove any hint of amber. I never got dinged for my clear corners on those cars, so I am not really worried about having an amber blinker now (that only lights up amber and is red while off). Yeah, it's a smaller overall flash than the US, but it's plenty visible. Good enough for Europe.

On the wire, it's a wire that is supposed to be there on Euro cars and has a location on the pin connector, so it's not like some kind of mod, but it is adding $150 to my install over the US lights. You could also jump it from the inner to the outer, but that is something that is not stock and feels mickey mousy. They will be running it from the module.
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Look what just came in…haha. Here we go. I got Vic scheduled to code around 10pm tonight so I'll hopefully be rolling into work looking fresh tomorrow. Lol fingers crossed.

Thanks again euro* for the write up.
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I mean they are illegal. That may matter to someone. Again I get your point. I would have bought them if they were in stock. But the US lights were and ar the best price through getbmwparts. I agree though, wish they didn't have the welcome lights issue. Maybe it'll get fixed one day.

Plus not having to run wiring all over is a con to consider for the euro.
Fair enough and I am not arguing or getting defensive just so you know. It's good information to help others decide. This is just my point of view. On stock, I originally ordered the US lights from getbmwparts but they informed me that it was going to be at least two months. This was a few weeks ago, so I cancelled, which in hindsight was a good thing as Vic told me to get the Euros. The Euros are only two weeks out currently. In terms of cost, $1,000 for the US plus tax, $1100 for Euro, no tax, so it is a wash.

I get the illegal factor of the amber, which is ironic as it was not long ago blinkers HAD to be amber in the US and E38/E39 owners went to great lengths to remove any hint of amber. I never got dinged for my clear corners on those cars, so I am not really worried about having an amber blinker now (that only lights up amber and is red while off). Yeah, it's a smaller overall flash than the US, but it's plenty visible. Good enough for Europe.

On the wire, it's a wire that is supposed to be there on Euro cars and has a location on the pin connector, so it's not like some kind of mod, but it is adding $150 to my install over the US lights. You could also jump it from the inner to the outer, but that is something that is not stock and feels mickey mousy. They will be running it from the module.
Totally. Ya I ordered on 27 Jul and they arrived today. They had to come in from Germany. Was quoted end of August but Christmas came early as I got a fedex alert last night of a shipment arriving today.

Agree. I personally don't care about the "illegal" part. I've smoked, cleared, and completely removed all amber markers on every car I've ever owned haha. For me it was purely a timing thing. I'm installing mine as we speak.
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So some differences so far. I have a halogen reverse bulb…and I have 8mm nuts not 10 securing the lights.

Just installed the inner lights. They came with 8mm bolts as well so not sure what's with the design change and maybe a typo? Nonetheless not a big deal. I also had issues getting the water tight drip tray thing to attach to the inner lights. I recommend popping out the white plastic bolt thing that is left behind in the trunk. The new ones come with one attached anyway. Much easier to pop it into place than sliding the female piece under th male bolt head. Also I recommend not bolting in the light until after you've secured the seal. There's a hooking system that was difficult for me to attach with the light being bolted in already. Once I had the weather seal attached then I bolted in the inner lights.

Edit: outer lights were 10mm and inner 8mm

Now I just need to find something small enough to stick in this pin hole to release the wires.
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Look what just came in…haha. Here we go. I got Vic scheduled to code around 10pm tonight so I'll hopefully be rolling into work looking fresh tomorrow. Lol fingers crossed.

Thanks again euro* for the write up.
Nice! I look forward to your experiences and how Vic does as well. So 10:00 EST for you is what time for him? I am a few weeks away, but I will have to coordinate Vic and my shop.

Pics of after please!
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Ironically, I just got my tracking number delivery August 17. Ordered yesterday, so I should be done with everything by end of next week.
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Look what just came in…haha. Here we go. I got Vic scheduled to code around 10pm tonight so I'll hopefully be rolling into work looking fresh tomorrow. Lol fingers crossed.

Thanks again euro* for the write up.
Nice! I look forward to your experiences and how Vic does as well. So 10:00 EST for you is what time for him? I am a few weeks away, but I will have to coordinate Vic and my shop.

Pics of after please!
He's 12 hours ahead
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Ouch, that is going to be tough coordinating with a 9-5 shop.
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Ouch, that is going to be tough coordinating with a 9-5 shop.
Ya he's available pretty much 9:30pm-8:30am EST he said.
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Ya he's available pretty much 9:30pm-8:30am EST he said.
Nice, great to know. Good luck with the install.
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Nice, great to know. Good luck with the install.
Thanks. All but done. Everything is installed. Very easy really. Just need to find something small enough to swap the wires around and then I'm done done. Gonna see if the wife has a paper clip lying around.
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Thanks. All but done. Everything is installed. Very easy really. Just need to find something small enough to swap the wires around and then I'm done done. Gonna see if the wife has a paper clip lying around.
A small paperclip will push them right out. So about an hour of work so far?
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Thanks. All but done. Everything is installed. Very easy really. Just need to find something small enough to swap the wires around and then I'm done done. Gonna see if the wife has a paper clip lying around.
Good luck with everything. Let us see that hard work when finished. Pictures or it didn't happen
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Thanks. All but done. Everything is installed. Very easy really. Just need to find something small enough to swap the wires around and then I'm done done. Gonna see if the wife has a paper clip lying around.
A small paperclip will push them right out. So about an hour of work so far?
Ya unfortunately we don't have any so my wife's gonna bring some home from her work. Haha. I did find a spook or gauge wire that I should be able to make stiff enough. We will see. But yes only about an hour. I did confirm I didn't need the extra drip trays that go along the outside of the trunk. They're exactly the same as what was already there. Although I did break a clip when removing them so it didn't hurt to have back ups lol.
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Ended up dremeling a door pin that we use to unlock interior doors down to size. Worked like a charm. Done. Now just need coding.
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Nice! Did you notice if you had 4 or 5 wires on the inner connector?
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I had 4 wires.

All done. Did not know this coding would erase other coding. Vic was able to get some of the items back. Couldn't remember everything that was coded. I do know I had adaptive cruise control coded to default to closest distance and to ignore steering wheel sensors. Vic did not know how to code those as of yet. But they look great and an easy hour of my time.
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That looks amazing. If I had a pre-LCI car, this would be my first upgrade.
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So we still does not know how to make them work during day as DRL, right?
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Nice! Did you notice if you had 4 or 5 wires on the inner connector?
I had 4 wires.

All done. Did not know this coding would erase other coding. Vic was able to get some of the items back. Couldn't remember everything that was coded. I do know I had adaptive cruise control coded to default to closest distance and to ignore steering wheel sensors. Vic did not know how to code those as of yet. But they look great and an easy hour of my time.
That does look amazing. Thanks for the confirm on the wires, part of me is hoping there are 5 for me as I've seen some people post they had 5. Would save me $150 bucks on install.

Good to know on coding. The only coding I have has been done by me with Bimmercode. I am surprised Vic didn't know how to code shortest distance ACC, pretty sure that's a common ask. Was the few things my list that BC can't do.

BTW, how you liking our QB? We miss him.
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