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05-28-2008, 08:39 AM | #1 |
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C&D Comparison: 997 TT vs. Nissan GT-R vs. M3. Guess who wins??
The M3 Coupe. This isn't a joke.
In the July 2008 issue, p. 56-68. I'll scan images in asap. Just wanted to post this as soon as I could.
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Not a repost, especially considering this mag just came out yesterday. The other one was from CAR magazine, out of the UK/Europe. I don't believe the results are the same either...
I'm working on scanning right now. I'm sacrificing my own magazine for this so you better damn appreciate it!
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M3 over 997TT.....forget it. Unless youre desperate for back seats/boot space or money is an issue (then why the compare a 997TT to an M3) i'd love to see someone turn down the P-car for the m3. Bring on the fanboys... |
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easy there killers, I'm not saying that I would personally take an M3 over a 997 TT, in fact I wouldn't, the Porsche is a much better car. There is a reason for the $50k+ price difference.
That's just what the magazine says. Don't just assume because I posted this, I share the same opinion.
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Wow!
Thanks for the scans M3NTAL. I have not had the luxury of driving a 911 Turbo or GTR. Had a short stint in a 996 GT3. Mentally (excuse the term M3NTAL), that puts me in a huge valley of doubt that the M3 is as good as I think it is. While we know car reviews are always subjective, no matter how many points they assign, it's good to know a respected publication thinks the M3 is really special compared to these heavyweights.
All of their points about the M3 resonate, but it's good to have the comparison evaluation. I'm happy and that's all that really matters to me, but it's good to be loved!
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05-29-2008, 05:58 AM | #12 | |
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05-29-2008, 10:49 AM | #15 |
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Yeah, let's deduct 12 points for the tt's lack of trunk space, and rear seat room and comfort. Why not compare a Ducati 1098 and say that we'll deduct points because it only seats two. People that buy tts are not concerned with these things. Most would opt for a rear seat delete if it was an option.
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All the C&D writers have basically said is which car they would buy out of the 3. As someone who could buy any of the 3 cars myself I came to a similar conclusion. I realize that as a 35 year old father of about-to-be-two my priorities might not be the same as the 24 year old Gran Turismo fanatic.
Nonexhaustive comparison summary: M3 -- OK performance bang for the buck (winners here = Evo), great ride, practical, best blend of performance and luxury GT-R -- (at MSRP) better performance bang for the buck, crappy ride, not terribly practical, ugly TT -- crappy bang for the buck, not practical, mmm full red leather. Just because C&D cares about the back seat no one else has to, but to argue this makes the comparison less valid then someone who cares only about acceleration is laughable.
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The writers/reviewers were looking for a car that is practical, and can perform as well; a good GT car. I still standby my statement that a 997 TT is a better performance car than the M3, but in my opinion Porsches are overrated. I know the fanboys will come back and say I'm completely full of sh!t, and that I know nothing and what not, but I think they are. Yeah they handle great, but it just doesn't feel like something special. If I'm going to pay $200k+ on a car I would most definitely get an F430 over a GT2. When you sit in a Ferrari you know you're in something special, something that has been hand crafted in minute detail. The Porsche feels like it can perform, and it has technology and craftsmanship, but you just don't feel the sense of occasion in it. Now do I feel that in an M3? Not entirely, about the same or a little less as a Porsche, but I wouldn't expect to on a car that costs only $70k. I'm not going to bash Porsches and I haven't, like I said they are a great performance car, but the writers of this article are right, when looking for a great GT car, the 997 TT isn't it.
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05-29-2008, 01:59 PM | #19 |
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The 997tt runs 0-100 in 7.8, 0-60 in 3.2 and the 1/4 in the upper 11's. The 997tt has 210 lb./ft more torque, 66 more ponies and weighs over 200 lbs less; with AWD. Tell me how your statement makes sense. The M3, albiet one fantastic car, will get embarrassed in each and every encounter with the 997tt.
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