03-27-2020, 06:23 AM | #67 |
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I consider this your best 60-130 run (which you ran the next day) and the dragy graph is not all fucked up, with extremely unusual fluctuations in speed and acceleration. Update your chats .. and re run your 6.75 with a dragy graph that is clearly not manipulated or being affected by what appears to some very scary unsafe fluctuations caused by the tune (it appears as if on shift your car stops accelerating and then lunges forward at shift with excessive and unsafe boost levels or something very weird). What's going on in this graphs ? Also ... what boost and fuel because your 2019 M5 Comp was much, much slower running the same setup (but on 92). I'm not going to entertain this discussion if we can't be fully transparent on boost target and the specific fuel mix used because these cars are extremely sensitive to those factors.
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03-27-2020, 06:44 AM | #68 |
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Also, I only have one quarter time on my car w DME tune before I added downpipes. That time was 10.57 seconds, with a horrendous 60 ft of 1.70 (driver error) but with a trap speed of 133mph at 1000 DA in 70 degree weather. This is on my 2019 M5 Comp on 93 octane at a 21 boost target in the DME tune
This compares to your 10.34 (on the 2020 M5 Comp) @ 132mph with a 1.56 60 ft at a negative DA of 256 in 40 degree weather with unknown fuel and boost target on JB4 This is a 2/10ths difference that can probably be explained by differences in launch and driving conditions (and probably boost and fuel, since we have no idea what octane, fuel booster or psi settings you were targeting to muster that run) I will further note that you ran a 10.74 @ only 131 mph with a 1.69 60 ft with your 2019 M5 on 23 psi boost target with pump fuel in what I assume was 60 degree weather giving that the post was in spring. These are far more comparable driving and fuel conditions as my run with a similar 60 ft and you were about 2/10ths slower w a 2 psi more boost target ... So again if we want to do this fairly we reAlly need to know all the facts and variables So the way I see it is 60-130 You (on normal Dragy log ) 7.28 w unknown fuel and boost target on a 2020 comp Me (normal dragy) - 7.18 w 93 octane and 21 boost in my 2019 comp 1/4 mile You - 10.75 in your 2019 comp on pump w/ 23 psi target and a 1.69 60 ft in warmer weather @ 131 Me- 10.57 in my 2019 comp on pump w/ 21 psi target and a 1.70 60 ft in 70 degree weather @ 133 |
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03-27-2020, 07:02 AM | #69 |
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Did you scoop up an evolve tune? I worked with imran and Mateen over past day or so to acquire an ecu and tcu tune. Didnt have a chance to do fast runs, but did drive the car and its very strong...seat of pants and jb4 logs both show it. Looking forward to playing with it.
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03-27-2020, 10:30 AM | #72 |
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I did indeed. None of the numbers I posted are from the M8. It's not quite there yet—tough to say if it will ever match up but it's getting closer and I suspect I'm traction bound with the stock Pirellis.
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I haven't read one word—just post some numbers when you get your car back. Man, did you ever pick the perfect thread for this excuse-laden debacle. |
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03-27-2020, 10:41 AM | #75 | |
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In my mind, this is holding everyone back right now, ECU tunes and piggy alike. The most noticeable change for you, I hope, will be from 4th to 5th where the boost targets seem to be neutered and presumably by the ZF's torque limiter. Sadly, I'll never get to feel it firsthand—not a modification that I can risk if I want to continue switching in and out of cars annually. |
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Well, we just went on stay at home order last night, even though we've really been doing it for a few weeks. I'll likely get out in the next few days to see what's up, though. TCU tune alone...most noticeable difference even without driving hard is quicker shifts and better downshifts that allow for more aggressive engine breaking. Missed that when my TCU tune was overwritten when I flashed that BM3 map. Working with the Evolve guys is easy. Told them what I was looking for, we discussed, and then they produced. I'm running a 25-26psi target map (jb4 on map 0) and the car is making full boost, which it was not doing on the BM3 map. Looking like the car will be fast (and it def feels that way)...I did tell Imran I'm not looking for 9's, just lowish 10's and trapping above 135mph on e30. I'll certainly report back. |
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At this point we can't even read it moreless flash it. Florida, great guys for sure and solid tunes.
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DME: 1848 DA 0-60 2.42 -- 1/8 Mile 6.38 -- 1/4 Mile 9.89 -- 60-130 5.91
Evolve: 1418 DA 0-60 2.48 -- 1/8 Mile 6.47 -- 1/4 Mile 10.05 -- 60-130 6.48 JB4: 1096 DA 0-60 2.54 -- 1/8 Mile 6.50 -- 1/4 Mile 10.05 -- 60-130 6.18 IG: @hockeytyme All runs on street with no prep on 21 inch wheels and PS4S tires |
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03-28-2020, 06:05 AM | #82 | |
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The issue is the inability to actually read and flash the TCU in the 2020 models. Once that is possible we will have the TCU tune available for these. |
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04-06-2020, 03:15 AM | #84 |
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Where did the new Noelle representative go? Did he get scared from the actual DME, Evolve and JB4 results?
I keep reading about g-power coming up with these crazy numbers, but no one on the boards has their stuff. Anybody know anything about them, this build claiming 829hp/774ft-lbs tq has modded turbos, titanium exhaust and a tune. https://www.motor1.com/news/407251/bmw-m5-g-power/amp/ |
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I said I wouldnt post until I had some results to share. Well I got the tune yesterday as I said I would. I made sure to get a couple 60-130 runs in before the tune so I would have a good baseline. I was hoping to just get out of the 7's. I have only been able to make two runs since picking up the car. I am not even sure if car has completely adapted yet but wanted to get these results to you guys. limeypride Hockeytyme you guys were right didnt quite make it to mid 6 seconds but I am definitely impressed with the performance for not having to do intakes and catless downpipes. I have probably already typed way more than Limey will read but oh well. I will say from a subjective point of view it definitely feels a lot faster but I know you guys only want to see objective results so here they are...
Yesterday morning dropping it off: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QzkfKSF343ZA89cD7 Stock Runs: https://photos.app.goo.gl/a5hTFULRz2EJVRcV9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/AuFUQHk4UcaXoqVd8 Noelle Runs https://photos.app.goo.gl/KM3VsNBFzUJuNg6J7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/VQeGgoJP5N1FGxfD6 Last edited by mr_dennis_s; 04-07-2020 at 02:48 PM.. Reason: added links |
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If you intended to post something with the text, it didn't show up. // EDIT: I see you fixed it below; not bad at all. Nothing, though, that would elevate it above other ECU tune vendors which is I think still the gist here. Thanks for following up. Last edited by limeypride; 04-07-2020 at 07:18 PM.. |
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Yeah no worries man. If I had the ability to run catless without issues believe me I would. I am just glad I was able to get some actual numbers. I know they aren't faster than what Evolve and DME are doing with downpipes and stage 2 tune on pump gas. Those guys really are killing it right now. But car feels awesome and I won't have any emissions headaches when I go to get my car inspected next year.
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To make it easier to see.
Stock Run Noelle Run
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