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      08-17-2017, 06:51 PM   #117
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So you think what makes an M car is the engine?

I'd say that's true of older AMG cars, but it has never been true of M cars.
Absolutely. The engine is central theme to most sports car and I believe the same for any ///M car.

For ///M cars in particular the two main things that make it stand apart are its engine and its chassis. Of course its about the complete package and design too, but the most important things are those two.

I do realize that for some people the car is what ever the manufacturer wants it to be and they just accept that.

But Porsche is good example here. They constantly use the flat 6 boxer engine, but with every new generation or LCi they make significant changes to the engine and make it almost like a completely different engine even though, they're all the same setup. The new .2 GT3 is a perfect example of this, it's a far different engine than the .1 GT3 engine.

M division could have at the very least raised the redline of the S63xx engine for the F90 M5 to 8,000rpm to make it different than the F10 M5 engine, but no, instead they just added a new water pump, a couple of slightly different turbos, and minor changes that don't significantly make it all that different.
I like your ideas on what they could have done with the engine.

But I think you underestimate how game changing the chassis improvements can be.

If this car has 4 wheel steering and all wheel drive it will drive like an M3 with the power of an M5 and be able to get all that power down. That will be pretty amazing.
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