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      04-27-2018, 05:47 AM   #37
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I wouldn't buy any M car brand new. There value at one year is what they should be sold for imo.

They are all mass produced and poor quality wise. The M5 will rattle just like an M3 in time.

If pure speed is what you are after there are better money propositions.

If you can see $260 K value in a new M5 then your eye sight is better than mine. After upgrading the exhaust to make it sound better than a kia stinger add 15k.

Having driven one, the exterior is boring, the interior is dull, the car sounds shit and the drive is as boring as the exterior. Not only does the M5 not have the looks of an M car it doesn't even drive like one.
just curious... sounds like 260k is the pricepoint in Australia for you. If you had a 200-260k budget and needed 4 doors what would you buy?

Is anything out there up to your standards?
The whole concept of a super sedan is flawed. Nothing in this criteria fulfills any of my criteria in a car. How can it?

To me the M5 competition will be neither exciting (the requirement of sports car) or comfortable (the requirement of cruiser). There is nothing in the segment that I would spend my money on.

My approach is to buy a dedicated family mover such as an ML or X class focusing on comfort and practicality with a dedicated sports car that actually feels like one.
I agree with many things you say, but I fundamentally disagree with your logic on the super sedan topic. Maybe at the price point where you live, that makes more sense, but in North America, there's something to be said about cars that are spacious, practical, and comfortable, but can also be fun light to light, or run low 10s in the quarter. I don't think anyone has the expectation that they would handle better or be more engaging than a true sports car, nor the expectation of 100% comfort of a dedicated cruiser.

Also, agreed on the looks of the M5 inside and out, but I can guarantee that it would be fun to drive. E63s, M5, RS7, Panamera Turbo, etc are all an absolute blast.
I like the concept of super sedan. Practical cars like SUV even with a lot of power will never be fun to drive due to high center of gravity, big frontal area, and etc. meanwhile two door sports cars are not practical for me and I do not like to be seen in them.

So for me those super fast sedans are a good compromise. Especially nowadays they are almost as fast anything on the road and yet still seats four and not as flashy.
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