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Originally Posted by Savoy2001
Even if it can compete. Wouldn't a car with 700+hp weighing 42-440lbs compete better? Take current gen f90 with another 100-150 hp and now what do you have? I'll tell you. You would have the true next gen successor to the F90 that's what you'd have. Instead we're most likely getting a very compromised heavy car that will be decent on track at best with a goofy amount of weight to have to contend with and for what?
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Yes of course it would be better to take an f90 pump it up an additional 100-150HP, and even better than that would be 3200lbs and 800 hp. but thats not going to happen in this car LOL.
But, as cars and the world evolves cars change. Maybe look at the badge on the back and realize maybe what used to be the M5 is now the M3 and so on. The good news is there is a lot of cars out there lighter that perform well including BMWs if the G90 doesn't do it for you.
But let's not forget the F90 is not putting out 617hp either its closer to 675-700 already. So its likely the G90 will be closer 800 (lets hope)...
Also, while yes 100-150 more HP and lighter than the F90 would be ideal, but remember They're pushing the limits of what a ICE v8 can do (relatively reliably and not blow up every 10k miles), while also complying with all the absurd regulations governments put on car manufactures for safety, emissions, gas mileage etc. Not too many (if any) ICE non-hyper cars putting down 650-700hp. Z06 C8 670HP is one of the only NON-Exotic form Hyper cars putting out that kind of power, and we know its 670HP at the crank, not wheels, where the F90 is likely at least 670 at the crank already. Only a few and their peformance isnt much (if at all) better than the F90. IE hellcats, GT500 etc, and we know what the F90 does to hellcats around a track and drag strip.
I guess we'll have to see, the sapphire does just fine apparently at 5300 lbs and 1200 hp LOL, and the X5M does pretty well at 5500 LBs and 617 hp. I have to imagine the G90 if 720 hp and 5300 hp, it should be able to at least beat the current F90 track time considering its a couple hundred lighter and 100 more hp than the X5M that did 2:59 on that track that the F90 did 2:54. Yes 5 seconds is a lot, but it's also a 5500 lb SUV with the same power as the F90 at 4300Lbs. Have to imagine an additional 100 hp and 200lbs less should be at least 5 seconds quicker than the X5M.
This assumes again, that everything leaked is accurate, and BMW didnt underrate it substantially and over rate the weight.
Im with you the car is a fat pig, and it's concerning. But the Lucid kicked the shit out the F90 and is 1000lbs heavier. Yes... also 4-500 more HP (assuming the G90 is a true 800HP, the same way they likely measure the 1200 from lucid)... LOL... But somewhere between the 2 is I think where the G90 will come in.
I think if the G90 can come in on that track for instance at 2:50-2:53, thats pretty respectable. Since the "much lighter smaller better handling" G80 did 2:53.5...