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      12-04-2017, 09:18 PM   #118
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The F90 M5 is probably in a word, too "good" but also too "indistinctive."

They essentially improved upon everything that could be improved upon, performance wise, from the F10 M5. You ask any long time F10 M5 owner, the number one complaint was always, no traction. They fixed that in the F90. All small improvements, like carbon fiber roof, while ignoring things that also matter, like steering feel.

They've taken the BMW M5 in a direction which caters to the masses and not the few. The F90 M5 is pretty much great at everything now, its got traction, clutch engages smoothly when lumbering around in the grocery store parking lot, a bit more aggressive styling with carbon roof and stock finned diffuser, iDrive system has never been better, engine is strong and reliable with a bit better exhaust note. On the track, it'll murder apex's with the M xDrive, on the drag strip you can finally beat that modded Jeep SRT with its AWD, at the stoplight you can easily defeat that 19 year old kid with his modded WRX, and on the highway not many factory power output cars will outrun you. The new F90 has pretty much no flaws now. It is in fact the best M5 ever.

What the F90 M5 truly lacks is a certain jais ne se quois from both F10 M5 and the E63S AMG. It's just not different enough from both of those cars to really make it "special." It's basically a different cake made with the same recipe.

It's not M's fault though, these super saloons are just simply becoming less relevant as these businesses seek only to improve their bottom line and stave off perceived market shifts to the next electric sedan that will do 0-60 in 2.2 seconds.

But I tell you, if M had made this new M5 with an NA V12 mated to a DCT or an optional 6MT with AWD, a chassis weight of 4,300lbs, and making 700hp, I wouldn't be writing this post right now.
I see zero "jais ne se quois" factor favouring the F10 over the F90.

If you were talking any of the previous M5s with truly bespoke N/A engines you would have a point. But the F90 is better than the F10 in every possible way IMO.
Then you never owned an F10 M5 long enough to desire a new engine design in a new generation of car. The S63 is a great engine but variety is the spice of life.
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