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      08-21-2017, 10:37 PM   #142
KevinM
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Originally Posted by yousefnjr View Post
I understand the blasphemy as much as the next guy but damn... performance hard to argue against
Yeah. BMW had to groom this to do battle with the C63 S, Audi RS7, and Panamera TT. We already know the car was locked in at "big" given the G30 platform, and AWD was basically mandated given the torque curve and to achieve the 0-60/62 mph numbers now mandated in this segment. Given all of this, kudos to M for the 2WD mode and serious performance. While it's not for me, I can respect the car and it's purpose. Sure, I'd love it as much as the next enthusiast if BMW made the M5 smaller (well I guess then it wouldn't be an M5), lighter, less powerful and more nimble, and with a MT option, but it wouldn't sell. Oh wait, I've described my F80 M3. No, actually, I've described my E39 M5 (or E34 or E28)...

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Originally Posted by Greer View Post
THE QUICKEST M5 YET! This will be my next car. European Delivery here we come.
Fixed that for you. Enjoy your ED and be sure to post a ED trip journal!

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Originally Posted by BIGW0RM View Post
WHy did they remove DCT?
The torque is too much for the current M-DCT to handle and it must have bene prohibitively expensive to develop an new DCT to handle it. Seems that M felt the new autos are so good it doesn't matter. Early reviews seems to agree. To me, anything that is not a MT is an automatic. Especially if you are not tracking the car.

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Originally Posted by Jeffe View Post
I miss the old days. At this point, I want the cars from yesteryear. If BMW is going to numb the car this much at least give us the wagon version in the states!
I guess I miss the old days as well. Because I want BMW to survive as an independent company, I'll keep my "classic" (to me anyway) BMWs and keep supporting BMW as long they offer a DD that appeals to me. That may end when the last MT car is produced, but we'll see.
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