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Originally Posted by Wheelwright

I used Continental WinterContact TS810 with my previous car (128i) for 4 winters and they were probably the worst tires I ever had. First of all: Tirerack sold them to me old (lesson learned: next time I am asking for 1-2 year old tires at most). Those tires always looked "ugly": more like dirt than black rubber. And the traction in deeper snow or ice felt worse than all-seasons to me: I was fishtailing all over the place while old Corollas and Tauri were passing me left and right. Quite embarrassing really for the amount of money I paid. At least those tires were quiet and had good grip in low temperatures on dry roads. Also there was quite a lot of thread left after 4 years. Next time I stay away from Continental brand.

hmm if they were so bad why did you use them for 4 winters?